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To: editor-surveyor
As I said, you are challenged in that area.

I asked what I thought was a legitimate question. You were the one on this thread who made the claim that “they (dinosaurs) were still alive in the middle ages in sufficient numbers to have a huge representation in the written historical record”.

I only asked you to cite examples of such in historical documents and how you differentiate between historical accounts and fictional entertainment. I was genuinely interested in what you had to say to support that claim.

However, since you refuse to engage me in honest conversation or support your statement and instead choose to insult me, I think perhaps you are the one who is “challenged” or as we say down South, “Why bless your heart”.

BTW – there was a very funny movie some years back where aliens on another planet built their entire culture and technology on the “historical” documents they received from electronic transmissions from Earth. It turned out however that the “Historical Documents” were nothing but a Star Trek like TV show and purely fictional. You might want to check that out for a few laughs (or for a good look in the mirror).

While admittedly not an “expert” or scholar on the subject of European medieval history and literature, I am very well read and versed in both the literature of the time and of the history of that time period. And I know of no purely historical writings supporting that dino’s were still living during this period.

I do know that “dragons” “giants” and other mythical beasts were a popular character and plot devise in the romantic and epic fiction of the time. Some of these “beasts” were the literary descendent of Greco-Roman mythologies and Christianized for the audience. And when looking at something like Anglo-Saxon epic poem Beowulf, keep in mind that the writer (or writers) were not depicting something that happened during their lifetime but retelling a story set in ancient pagan Scandinavia.

If you are to put credence in the literature of ancient peoples and retold by people living a thousand years ago as some sort of proof that dinosaurs still walked the Earth long after their extinction some 65 million years ago, then you should also be willing to accept that Pegasus, Zeus, Cyclops, etc. were very real as well.

You may also want to consider (and the most plausible explanation for many myths of monsters, giants, dragons and other mythical creatures) that ancient people occasionally came across the fossils of very real dinosaurs and having no other way to adequately explain or account for them, created stories, some very fanciful and epic stories, that fit their understanding of their world at the time.

103 posted on 11/27/2011 1:42:26 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

I’m sure that you’re already aware of several examples, and your ignorant bias makes it foolhardy to attempt to educate you against your will.

The fact of battles with “dragons,” as dinosaurs were known for millenia, is a dominant theme in history.

Educate yourself; it iasn’t my job.


105 posted on 11/27/2011 2:20:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Just to jump in here, the only things I’m aware of from the Middle Ages are the “great worms” (a.k.a. dragons, worm was another name for them) IOW giant eels (they are extinct now, apart from the occasional “horse eel” in Ireland, and of course the Loch Ness monster) the slaying of which critters in a nearby river would sometimes enter local folklore.


132 posted on 11/27/2011 8:35:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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