Posted on 11/26/2011 1:06:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Who set up the NRC?
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Mike Weatherford says:
Many of the people discussed in Climategate 1 and 2 work for the US Government, or are funded by the US Government. Its quite clear by now that Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) is a consummate fraud, and these people are a large part of it. They not only deserve to be fired immediately, they should also lose any pension considerations they havent privately funded. The Environmental Protection Agency should be stripped of all funding used to respond to CAGW, and any capability to impose regulations relating to it. It wont happen due to the person in the White House, but it should.
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jorgekafkazar says:
The National Research Council of The National Academies of the United States is empanelling a committee to study Surface Temperature Reconstructions for the Past REDACTED Years.
Why was this number censored? it must have read the Past 1,000-2,000 Years Did it look too much like someones phone number? The redaction algorithm seems poorly written.
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The National Research Council released the final report in the America's Climate Choices series on May 12, 2011. The public was invited to participate in a special event later that day -- A Conversation on America's Climate Choices, followed by a question-and-answer period and a reception.
Climate Central's Heidi Cullen hosted the conversation with several members of the report's authoring committee, including the Chair of the committee, Al Carnesale, University of California Los Angeles, and the Vice Chair, Bill Chameides, Duke University.
Other participants included:
Marilyn Brown, Georgia Institute of Technology
Donald Boesch, University of Maryland
Thomas Dietz, Michigan State University
Jim Geringer, Environmental Systems Research Institute
Philip R. Sharp, Resources for the Future
Robert Socolow, Princeton University
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![]() Limiting the Magnitude of Climate Change |
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Peter Miller says:
Not totally relevant, but if you want to read a lot of vindictive nonsense on the subject, you need to read the comments at Real Climate. Here is one from Anthonys greatest fan Tamino, I thought it was very revealing about the depth of thought in the AGW cult. I promise I did not make this up, its real:
Fake skeptics like Anthony Watts try to blame global warming on bad station siting. Turns out he was wrong.
Then they try to blame it on dropout of reporting stations. Turns out that was wrong.
The fake skeptics can hardly contain their worship for a new team to estimate temperature (the Berkeley team) which is started by a skeptic. Theyre sure the new estimate will prove that the other estimates are fraudulent. Anthony Watts proclaims that hell accept whatever their results are, even if it contradicts him. It contradicts him. He refuses to accept their results. He launches into multiple tirades to discredit the new effort.
Fake skeptics try to blame global warming on UHI. Turns out they were wrong.
Fake skeptics try to claim global warming has paused or slowed down or isnt even happening. Turns out they were wrong.
Scoundrels resort to stealing a bunch of private emails and take them out of context so they can launch a campaign of character assassination. Multiple investigations follow, the science of global warming is vindicated. Again.
The fake skeptics have got nothing. Zero. Zip. Squat. With all the real science against them, apparently their only recourse is to look for sloppy seconds in the stolen emails in a lame attempt to revive their smear campaign. It tells us all we need to know about the so-called skeptics. They are pathetic.
Im tempted to laugh but the health, safety, even survival of the next generation is at stake. Theyll know who it was who sealed their fate.
Comment by tamino 22 Nov 2011 @ 7:03 PM
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Camburn says:
Seems like some of the scientists have this idea that things should be friendly.
Talk about absolute hogwash. The evidence that the science is settled is becoming more apparant each and every day. It is settled that GAWG is bogus through and through.
No tropical hotspot, which some sites indicate was never an issue OH??????
Stratosphere not cooling OH??????????
NO statistical increase in temps for the past 13 years ..unless you use fake Ocean Heat Content which Dr. Hansen disagrees with OH??????????
How many things need to be shown for these suedo scienstists to finally be held accountable?
If its true that the next generation is all going to die, how will they know?
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jorgekafkazar says:
November 25, 2011 at 3:04 pm
My question is, will there be another whitewash? Or will they first have to whitewash the first whitewash?
Well do they need to, or can they simply ignore Climategate 2. It seems the newspapers are not latching on to the significance of these emails but they are reporting the rebuttals by Phil Jones. Before throw your arms in the air and saying well the press is biased stop a moment and think.
Now I am a interested non-scientist, by profession I run a business and am an artist, who has followed this blog for years. When I look at these emails they do not jump out at me. A journalist reading this post would probably be even more in the dark.
It strikes me that the sceptic side is not getting the recognition it deserves because ordinary folk are simply a sea when it comes to understanding what is being found in these emails. The warmist put out press statements, and if you google climategate news you will find their press statements regurgitated, often word for word, by countless newspapers across the world.
Sites like WUWT are really good discussion and analyzing boards, but the product of those discussions need to passed on in a form that is usable by the press. This is why your findings are being ignored. It is not that the press are always against you, and many are, it is because you are not packaging the results of these posts in wording that can then be distributed to the average non-scientist journalist.
What I am suggesting is that the impact of all the studious research and hard work that has gone on for years on WUWT is often not reaching the public because blogs like this one do not have a press department. If this blog, and other sceptic sites, were to combine to put together a team of scientists (maybe retired but still wanting to contribute and change the world for the better) with the ability to translate stories from blog posts into press releases, then the balance of reporting in the press would shift in our direction. It is not a hard thing to do; rewrite the important stories for lay people and then send them by email to lists of friendly reporters.
You have already won the arguments, most of what is arriving on your desks is reinforcing what you already know, now you have to find a way of putting this victory in front of the press so that it will be adequately covered in the newspapers
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Bill Illis says:
There is quite a few emails in the latest batch dealing with this episode. Im assuming Roger Pielke Sr has searched through them.
Michael Mann, Phil Jones, Ben Santer, Tom Wigley, Phil Trenberth, Tom Karl, Tom Peterson, Peter Thorne.
These are the names that come up the most frequently associated with the more darker aspects of the emails. This is the group that forms the leadership of the coordinated suppression of dissent. Their names will go down in the future Wiki about how the global theory got so out of control.
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Richard Hill says:
to Julian Williams
re. message not getting out and earlier comments re. wasting resources.
Commenters here keep missing the point.
The key pivot point in the issue is NOT the media.
It is NOT the politicians.
It is NOT even the climate scientists.
It is the high priests of science.
eg the APS the AMS and the Royal Soc in UK, and so on.
If these bodies ignore the deep uncertainies and keep promoting alarm
then all your other efforts are wasted, because the MSM and politicians will,
correctly, in my opinion, take their advice.
Instead of piling on at WUWT and other blogs, put your time into trying to influence
the high priests.
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kim2ooo says:
TheGoodLocust says:
November 25, 2011 at 4:48 pm
The name is Environmental Media Services with ties to Tides Foundation Soros
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kim2ooo says:
And Fenton Communication
It was in the news for about 2 days. On the first, the news came on and on the second there was a woman saying lead scientist was holding back info that would disprove global warming. By the third day, the media dropped it like a bad habit. Any good CAGW skeptic site keeping track of that? I would google the name of the study, but I don't even know the name of the study or people involved
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Fenton is a public interest communications firm based in the United States. Founded by David Fenton in 1982, the firms client list includes organizations associated with a diverse array of social issues.[clarification needed]
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Been quite a bit on it at WUWT.
Thank you for all the responses. :)
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