[slowhandluke]

“Ask any military lawyer; ask any person who knows about the Geneva conventions that we're signatories to. We actually prosecuted Japanese war criminals specifically for the act of waterboarding against Americans,” he said.

McCain is totally deranged.

The Geneva convention doesn't cover guerrilla warfare.

What the Japanese did was the real thing that killed, what we did was a faked version to scare folks without harming them.

What McCain encountered in VietNam was the real thing, and he admitted in his books that he broke and told what he knew.

Real torture works. We stopped giving court martials for folks who broke and talked under torture because the military decided that it can't be helped.

It turns out that fake torture, just scaring folks, worked too.

[muawiyah]

What the Japanese did was kill people. Waterboarding doesn't kill. It was tossed into one of the war criminal indictments as a sort of "everything but the kitchen sink" deal.