I once asked the guy that has a nursey how to keep deer out of my garden, he said the best way is a 20 gage. My daugter has a home in the woods and they found a spray that keeps the deer from eating their extensive landscaping, but don’t remember the name. If anyone cares, freepmail me and I will get the name...they dont have any fencing and have a beautiful place. They don’t get all their flowers and shrubs eaten anymore..