Posted on 11/05/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi says his new machine fuses nickel and hydrogen at room temperature creating almost unlimited energy .
But there is one problem - many scientists claim it defies the very laws of physics. Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past - and no one can adequately explain how or why it might work .
The United States Department of Energy the U.S. Patent Office say the process is impossible because physics rules out the possibility of room-temperature nuclear fusion .
But Rossi's E-Cat machine can allegedly do it, and he says he proved it worked during tests at the University of Bologna last month .
Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory
'We have nothing to say, just to make plans that work properly and let those facts win against the scepticism.'
Sterling Allan, CEO of the alternative energy news agency Pure Energy Systems, told FoxNews.com he attended Rossi’s demonstration and the E-Cat is self sustaining .
'What Rossi demonstrated was 470 kilowatts of continuous output in self-sustain mode -- meaning the output was enough to keep the thing running on its own,' he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
One writer of one blog does not a pattern make.
Your problem, not mine. Rossi has spent his whole life doing technology. The transgressions he is/was guilty of were technical violations of environmental laws (outside of the gold thing, which I can't find enough info on)".
I can find NO instance where he has faked technology.
"Most of them are working with completely different reactions, and none of them have Rossi's "secret" catalyst to test, so your statement is false."
They're all using the Ni-H system, and various different conditions. They're all getting excess power. My statement is TRUE.
"To the best of my knowledge, no one doing legitimate LENR research is rushing their gadgets to market. Rossi is the only one acting like a late-night infomercial.
Rossi's actions are not much different from Patterson, who "was" trying to get his gadget to market. Unfortunately, he died....but his approach is on that has been replicated, though on his substrate.
"Using Rossi's test equipment, installed by Rossi, and allegedly calibrated by Rossi. Even then, Rossi has limited what they were allowed to witness.
Sorry, not true. At least for the first few demos, some of the investigators brought their own. And in those runs, the only limitation was on the measurement of the gamma ray energy spectrum.
"OK, I won't bother you any more. It's clear that you are unable to argue your position effectively."
Promise??? It's hard to pursue logic with one who is completely illogical and refuses to examine any primary evidence. Have you STILL not read the reports???
And yet, he hasn’t even (so far as we know) gotten the routine kinds of certifications that an ordinary 1MW industrial boiler would require.
In fact, several engineers on the Vortex mailing list
***Your answer lies on the Vrtex-L mailing list that you mention in the very next sentence.
Re: [Vo]:Re: Hey, it didn’t blow up! And by the way, there does seem to be a permit.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-
Yeah, you're right. But that is a distinction without a difference.
Try waiting until it is proven true and not just some scam artists telling you it is true.
***Try waiting one way or the other before going into troll mode.
Levi was a skeptic, member of a skeptics’ society. Once again, your post turns out to be provably false.
No, Rossi said that the black box ... “the reactor” is being manufactured by Leonardo Inc. in the US.
As other US Exporters have learned, that if you are exporting anything they will be used for Nuclear reactors, you have to declare it.
This even includes batteries and capacitors. No exceptions. Export of nuclear technology is taken very seriously.
Even when he was in jail?
Sorry, maybe your degree is from Kensington U., and that’s why you got it wrong?
His whole life excluding his when he was involved in a gold fraud scheme and defending himself from five criminal charges.
I find it interesting that the prime detractors are currently shifting from “it’s a fraud and a con and can’t possibly work” to “it’s a dangerous nuclear device and should be banned until he proves it safe” without at any point pausing at “well, it might actually be doing something in the area of cold fusion”.
***Here’s a similar form of backtracking...
Italian scientist claims he has achieved ‘cold fusion’
Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:35:21 PM · 136 of 209
dila813 to Kevmo
“Many of the results were at low signal to noise ratio, but others were high, such as heat from 10 to 100 W, and tritium at 50 times background (Los Alamos, Texas A&M) up to several million times (BARC).”
You do realize that while statistically these are significant results, These still fall far outside the realm of what we would be looking for in a commercial product.
If Rossi’s ecat were real, it would be a leap of many thousand fold (if not millions) increase over the best result that anyone had ever got.
What you are missing is it doesn’t matter, he claims it is a nuclear device ... he is damned if it is and damned if it isn’t, either way he goes to prison.
Your post has nothing to do with the comment regarding “, These still fall far outside the realm of what we would be looking for in a commercial product.”
I've already posted the source of my PhD degree. Look it up.
I forgot. Was it in Chemistry, Electical Engineering, Nuclear Physics or INTRADING?
Major-Analytical Chemistry
Minor-Nuclear Science
Two of the guys in my Chemistry PhD research group "did" minor in electrical engineering. The one who went to work for Hewlett Packard was always coming to ask me how to design stuff.
No, it had to do with you not understanding what is going on and calling it back tracking.....come on, catch up
Back tracking is backtracking. That part is easy to “catch up” on.
Get the model name and number. Read: http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_43/657000/657559/5/print/657559.pdf Just checking and this guy with his history says it’s strain gauges all the way down in stylish bathroom scales these days. They don’t look all that different from other scales ~ particularly the ones with the glass tray or stand ~ digital readout to order.
Re: [Vo]:Re: Hey, it didn’t blow up! And by the way, there does seem to be a permit.Oh, he had a permit to operate a nuclear fusion reactor, based on unknown nuclear reactions, generating gamma rays? I didn't know they gave those out.
As long as he had such a permit, I withdraw all my objections.
Of course, I suspect he only had a permit to operate a conventional, non-nuclear water boiler. Which is probably the most honest thing about this whole farce.
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