I should have added that in the interview, the Chris Wilson guy says *he* saw and heard it.
He also says that “at least three other people” were with him at the time. He could go a long way toward cleaning up this mess by telling us who the at least three other people are so that than can corroborate his assertion. If he’s telling the truth, I would think he would want the corroboration.
What did he see and hear?
Take a look around outside your beltway media generated bubble world bot boy. Your ignorance on what is going on at the grassroots is total.