That is why I recommend the loser pays Free republic $100.00, that way the money goes to a good cause.
Sooner or later, there is going to be a test that we can agree on and base the bet on that, to give money to Rossi so we validate his device, I think crack would be a safer bet.
WW, you said, Enrico Fermi was able to determine the yield of the Trinity test to within 5%?? with just a stopwatch and confetti? First of all, really, you're mentioning Enrico Fermi and Rossi in the same breath? Let's see, Enrico Fermi was a real physicist with a real degree. Now, you may think what Rossi has done may elevate him to Fermi's status, that remains to be seen. Besides, this is the 21st century, Firmi's method worked for then but you wouldn't use it now, would you stand outside a nuclear blast?
Has anyone seen a voltage and current meter on that 500KW generator that was hooked up? He should also use DC to power his heaters so we know he's not futzing with A/C power factor, no, I don't believe, now that he is selling shares, I think I see the scam now.
One other thing, I thought the Oct 28th test was at Rossi's factory, now I've read it took place at the University of Bologna, an appeal to authority, how nice.
Finally, again, to the challenge, what and who would we consider as a valid test?
I can guarantee you I never said any such thing, on ANY thread involving "cold fusion".
"WW, you said, Enrico Fermi was able to determine the yield of the Trinity test to within 5%?? with just a stopwatch and confetti? First of all, really, you're mentioning Enrico Fermi and Rossi in the same breath? Let's see, Enrico Fermi was a real physicist with a real degree. Now, you may think what Rossi has done may elevate him to Fermi's status, that remains to be seen. Besides, this is the 21st century, Firmi's method worked for then but you wouldn't use it now, would you stand outside a nuclear blast?
Sorry dude, you got the wrong guy. I have mentioned Enrico Fermi not at all. My statement was that you don't need huge amounts of fancy equipment to do good science (which is perfectly true). And I said that one could perfectly characterize Rossi's reactor with two thermometers, a barometer and a beaker. But I was wrong....you also need a stopwatch.
"One other thing, I thought the Oct 28th test was at Rossi's factory, now I've read it took place at the University of Bologna, an appeal to authority, how nice.
I'd love to know where you read that. The photos and videos show an obvious industrial park facility. I seriously doubt that a centuries old university looks anything like that.
Might I suggest you go and have a LARGE cup of coffee, and try again.
Wait a second, you want me to contribute money to give to Rossi?
***That would settle it. You buy one, you prove it’s a fraud. Simple. You get your money back by having made a name for yourself as a debunker, etc.
WW, you said, Enrico Fermi was able to determine the yield of the Trinity test to within 5%?? with just a stopwatch and confetti?
***Yes, that is the case.
First of all, really, you’re mentioning Enrico Fermi and Rossi in the same breath?
***One brought us “death, the destroyer of worlds” and the other appears to have brought us a new energy source that would SAVE lives, not take them.
Let’s see, Enrico Fermi was a real physicist with a real degree. Now, you may think what Rossi has done may elevate him to Fermi’s status, that remains to be seen.
***Here you are arguing personalities rather than scientific data.
Besides, this is the 21st century, Firmi’s method worked for then but you wouldn’t use it now, would you stand outside a nuclear blast?
***Invalid analogy. Comparing the known past to the unknown.
Has anyone seen a voltage and current meter on that 500KW generator that was hooked up?
***Argument from silence.
He should also use DC to power his heaters so we know he’s not futzing with A/C power factor, no, I don’t believe, now that he is selling shares, I think I see the scam now.
***He’s selling 1MW plants. He MIGHT sell shares down the road.
One other thing, I thought the Oct 28th test was at Rossi’s factory, now I’ve read it took place at the University of Bologna, an appeal to authority, how nice.
***Majoring on the minors. This detail wouldn’t turn the tide one way or the other.
Finally, again, to the challenge, what and who would we consider as a valid test?
***The valid test is to pick someone we both trust to whatever decision is to be made. For instance, we could have had a bet prior to Oct 28 that the test would be postponed. There are a lot of places to hang your hat.