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Cain 2012 Looks a Lot Like Obama 2008, Except with a VERY Different Outcome - John Ziegler -
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| 11/02/2011
| John Ziegler
Posted on 11/02/2011 8:28:32 AM PDT by reformjoy
Editorial by John Ziegler
Cain 2012 Looks a Lot Like Obama 2008, Except with a VERY Different Outcome
11/2/2011
Much has been written about the almost primal desire among conservatives to find the next Ronald Reagan, or at least someone they can get excited about, when it comes to choosing an opponent for President Obama in 2012. A huge number of Republican primary voters and Tea Party members now consider it almost a betrayal of their sacred honor to give in and vote for Mitt Romney, even if the evidence is overwhelming that he would have the best chance to beat the guy who provoked so much of their passion to begin with.
What is particularly stunning about the way things are currently breaking is that it appears the Not Romney brigade is, in a stupefying bit of irony, now beginning to convalesce around the man who is most like the guy they claim to want to beat. Instead of a new Reagan, conservatives have instead found themselves their own Obama in Herman Cain.
The similarities between Cain in 2012 and Obama in 2008 are striking and go far beyond their shared (sort of) race. Both were basically political novices who just a few years before had been crushed in attempts to win seats in congress. Both are charismatic speakers. Both have massive holes in their foreign policy resume/knowledge. Both came out of crowded fields by appealing to the fringe of their parties and using the partisan media to gain enough traction to become the primary challenger of establishment candidates who no one really loved. Both seem to have a Teflon quality as their many mistakes never seem to stick to their personal appeal.
Now, based on the early returns, it appears as if Cains campaign is in the process of sharing an even more important historical commonality with Obamas miracle run to the nomination. Just as Obamas campaign was rocked with revelations that his long-time friend and pastor Jeremiah Wright was an anti-American racist loon, Cains is now in the process of dealing with allegations that in the 1990s two women were paid to keep quiet about having been sexually harassed by the candidate.
While the charges were very different in both their nature and their seriousness (for my money Wright was much more of a presidential disqualifier than what we currently know about whatever Cain did), they are remarkably similar in how the media and political partisans are reacting to them as well as their apparent impact on each campaign.
In 2008, Obama told various conflicting stories in a desperate attempt to explain the inexplicable. The liberal elements of the media did everything they could to minimize the story, spinning it as being about race rather than an insight into his character and truthfulness. In the end, the base of his party was forced to rally around him and, in some bizarre way, you could argue the controversy clinched him the nomination.
Now, in the 2012 cycle, history seems to be repeating itself. The conservative media is rushing to Cains defense. Fox News has provided him with a platform where he can answer only softball questions, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, among others, have strongly condemned the allegations as racial motivated liberal hit jobs, and Matt Drudge is already asking if America is ready for an Obama/Cain general election matchup. The base seems to be instinctually rallying around him, inherently and understandably distrustful of any remotely suspicious charge against a true conservative by a liberal media outlet.
Meanwhile, the real issues of his truthfulness, ability to handle a crisis, and electability have been largely downplayed by the conservative media (the only media that really matters in a Republican primary) and the liberal media seems to be holding back the big guns, salivating over what a Cain nomination would mean for them economically and ideologically.
The most interesting/important figure in the Obama/Cain comparison is clearly Matt Drudge, whose legendary Drudge Report dictates so much of the content for Fox News, talk radio, conservative blogs and, to a lesser extent, CNN, MSNBC and major newspapers.
In 2008, the evidence I have seen (both public and currently private) that Matt Drudge was in the tank for Barack Obama, at least until his election was secure, is overwhelming. (As a point of full disclosure, I used to fill in for mat on his old national radio show and used to be close to his former right hand man Andrew Breitbart.)
All one needs do is go back in the
Drudge archives from March 14, 2008, the day after the Wright story broke to see absolutely no mention of it on the site with the headline stating that super delegates were breaking towards Obama. This is just one of dozens of examples of where Drudge, apparently because he felt an Obama nomination/presidency would be good for his business (which it undoubtedly has been), downplayed or simply ignored stories which could have easily brought Obama down when he was still vulnerable. When compared to the extremely anti-Obama tone of the site today, it is downright comical to go back in time to see how Drudge portrayed events then.
Now, Drudge is playing the exact opposite role in the Cain scandal, heavily promoting conservative celebrity defenses of Cain and the narrative that this is just all part of a predicted high tech lynching. The Drudge Report was your only source of information; you would think that Cain was about to be named the nominee.
While Drudges actions may appear to be very different in 2012 than they were in 2008, their effect is exactly the same. You see Drudge is extremely savvy and he understands that Cain is good for his business in the short run by making the primary season far more compelling. He is also a potential long-term asset as a general election between Cain and Obama (one Drudge promoted heavily on Tuesday) would be the most electrifying in history. He also knows that having Cain as the nominee would virtually assure that his cash cow (Obama) would be around for another four years. In short, Cain is a no lose proposition for the conservative media in general and Drudge in particular.
While this analysis may seem exceedingly cynical to those who have not devoted years of their lives to this issue of media corruption as I have, I can assure you it is not. If there was one piece of knowledge I learned during the making of my last documentary film
Media Malpractice, that I wish everyone else knew, it would be that the news media, especially ideologically driven media, is a
business and not a cause.
While there are obviously exceptions, the vast majority of people making content decisions in the media are far more concerned with their job security than they are about saving the country.
To media people a Cain/Obama matchup means short term job security for everyone and at least four more years of living off Obama for conservatives. After all, the dirty little secret of ideological media is that it is bad for business when your guys are in power (if you doubt that, just look at how Obamas election impacted the ratings of Fox News and MSNBC).
Now, it is possible that some reading this are now saying, Okay John, if you are right and this is going to play out like 2008, doesnt that mean Cain would be the next president? The answer to that is decidedly no; because the fundamental reality of presidential elections, the one which has prevented conservatives from finding their next Reagan, is that the rules in a general election are totally different for Republicans than they are for Democrats. The incredibly unfair treatment of Sarah Palin in comparison to Obama in 2008 should have, if nothing else, at least ended any question about that obvious truth.
If a Republican had Obamas ties to Rev. Wright he would have gotten slaughtered by the increasingly partisan mainstream media. Similarly, Cain has already given the media more than enough to Palinize him should he be the nominee. His 9-9-9 plan can be easily demonized, his statements about Muslims and Gays will be used to make him seem like an extremist nut, and his own admissions regarding his lack of interest in foreign policy will turn an Obama weakness from 2008 into a decided advantage. All this is already exists before the real pressure of a campaign even begins and Cains penchant for straight talk surely comes back to haunt him on multiple occasions.
In short, a Cain/Obama campaign would be fun, but it would also result in a democratic landslide at the polls. The only conservatives who would gain from that scenario are those in the media. Unfortunately, they are also the ones controlling a narrative that most of their customers cant currently see the danger of.
As inequitable as it is, conservatives are simply not allowed to nominate an Obama. We gave up that right when we allowed virtually all of the major communication/education outlets to be taken over by liberals. About the only thing worse than this unfair rule would be to not accept its inescapable reality.
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To: I Shall Endure
Disagree. The base will just focus down-ballot..winning the Senate, increasing the House margin, and pickign up several governors slots..If Mitt gets the nomination, and we run a conservative as a 3rd party candidate, we give Obama the win. Just as easy to not vote for him, and a lot cheaper..devote our resources to the key senate/House races, andd we have the same result, we final bury the GOP country club establishment//
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
To: reformjoy
...Cains is now in the process of dealing with allegations that in the 1990s two women were paid to keep quiet about having been sexually harassed by the candidate.This is a blatant falsehood per the public documents. I hope a lawsuit is incoming. That seems to be the only way to fight back.
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT
by
Ingtar
To: jospehm20
They both have two eyes. They both have toenails.
That is how I am seeing this article. But to say they both come in “inexperienced” while ignoring the more important comparison of what experience they do bring (ex-ceo vs ex-community organizer). The article is rife with it.
And Obama is a LOUSY orator. I am convinced that if not for going “all teleprompter all the time” he would not have been elected.
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:23:37 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: reformjoy
This guy is another Romney booster. He doesn’t care about anything other than winning and replacing Lenin with Stalin is not the solution this country needs.
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:25:23 AM PDT
by
Pox
(Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
To: ken5050
Supporting Republicans down-ballot isn’t in conflict with voting 3rd - party for the Presidency.
I’m not saying I would support a third party. But if Mitt wound up the nominee - especially if he got it by Democrats voting for him in open primaries, which is the most likely scenario - frustration will likely boil over.
That’s my reading of the situation. YMMV. My predictions of the future don’t always come true.
To: WestSylvanian
If you listen to Cain’s full answer to the question about China, he was speaking of developing nuclear powered aircraft carriers.
If not Cain, who is your candidate in the primary?
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:31:53 AM PDT
by
shove_it
(old Old Guardsman)
To: I Shall Endure
Another thought. If Mitt wins the nomination, which of the current candidats do you think would agre to run as a third party candidate?
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:32:40 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
To: ken5050
Good question. A lot depends on whether it’s a “rogue” third-party candidacy, or a genuine party schism like the original Whig-Republican break-up. I think there’s a possibility of it being the latter; at some point the base will just give up on the current Republican party. Conservatives walking out will make RINOs happy; they think they can then recruit disaffected moderate Democrats and rule from the center. (Note: THEY think that; I don’t)
If it’s a “rogue” third party, I’d hope none the current candidates would do such a thing - although I could Ron Paul going that way. If the latter, I’d think quite a few might transfer loyalty to the new “conservative” conservative party.
To: reformjoy
>>>>>The conservative media is rushing to Cains defense. Fox News has provided him with a platform where he can answer only softball questions... Matt Drudge is already asking if America is ready for an Obama/Cain general election matchup.
Meanwhile, the real issues of his truthfulness, ability to handle a crisis, and electability have been largely downplayed by the conservative media...Yep.
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posted on
11/02/2011 9:53:19 AM PDT
by
Reagan Man
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11/02/2011 11:05:34 AM PDT
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To: cuban leaf
I like Rush Limbaughs take on it. Obama is the least experienced, least knowledgeable person in any room he happens to be in. That is definitely not the case with Cain, or any of the other Republican candidates for that matter.
To: Huck
Powerful crime syndicate boss (Jack Nicholson) pressuring Drudge to help install their boy (Josh Brolin) in power. Femme fatale (Christina Hendricks) mixed up in the mess tugging at his heartstrings. Ah, how to say...
...but given this is Matt Drudge we're talking about, it would make more sense to switch the Josh Brolin & Christina Hendricks roles with each other.
(Ahem.)
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posted on
11/02/2011 12:43:30 PM PDT
by
Yossarian
("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
To: Yossarian
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11/02/2011 1:18:14 PM PDT
by
Huck
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