Posted on 11/02/2011 8:28:32 AM PDT by reformjoy
Interesting article. I don't think this is being stirred up by new media journalists (such as Drudge) just to give themselves something to write about, but I do think that the above point is an excellent one.
People here keep complaining that dirt came out on Obama, too, and it was never investigated and very often not even mentioned after the first report, if even then.
But that's just how it is, and any GOP candidate has to be ready for this. The fact that Cain wasn't ready for this, even though he knew he had this in his past, doesn't mean that he's guilty of anything, but simply that he is somewhat naive about politics. And it's not because he's black; any GOP candidate whose name was getting out there can expect this.
So here's another crucial difference: Obama was a career politician. He knew how to play the game, and he played it with remarkable viciousness. He had never done anything significant in his life except being a "community organizer" (i.e., what they used to call a "ward heeler") and get elected to office, ranging from head of the Law Review to elected offices from Illinois. Granted, he did absolutely nothing once he got elected to these offices, but that was because he was simply looking on to the next one, and he did indeed manage to get himself promoted - with no achievements and no public history - all the way to the top. This is at least in part because he was chosen by the radical leftists who had taken over the Dems as being the candidate they were going to support come hell or high water, and they did. And they promoted him solely on personal grounds. I never found him "charismatic," but apparently a number of people did, and the Dems seemed to think it was really neat that people swooned when Obama appeared. I found it creepy, but maybe that's just me.
Still, no GOP candidate is going to get that kind of support from GOP Central, so we can rule that out to begin with. They might get fanatical, near-swooning support from a group of the "base," as we are seeing with Cain, but that's not enough to win a national election.
I don't think that it means we're finished and no GOPer except one who's not (Romney) will ever win. But I think it does mean that we've got to be much, much more prepared and that any GOP candidate has got to remember that simple axiom, which is that the rules are different for GOP candidates.
I used to actually like John Zieglar and bought his excellent film, Media Malpractice. John would go on MSNBC and CNN and stand up to all the Palin haters and bimbo pundits. He laughed in their faces and made them look like fools.
Then something happened to him and he turned on Palin like a pitbull. Seems like he wasn’t getting enough attention from the Palins and he threw a temper tantrum. That got him a good 15 seconds of notice from the MSM as a once-Sarah-supporter-turned-critic. Now he has faded into oblivion, but keeps trying to claw his way back to relevance.
Ye blew it, Johnny.
You state that Romney has the best chance of beating Obama and then offer absolutely no evidence for that assertion.
Now, it is possible that some reading this are now saying, “Okay John, if you are right and this is going to play out like 2008, doesn’t that mean Cain would be the next president?” The answer to that is decidedly no; because the fundamental reality of presidential elections, the one which has prevented conservatives from finding their next Reagan, is that the rules in a general election are totally different for Republicans than they are for Democrats. The incredibly unfair treatment of Sarah Palin in comparison to Obama in 2008 should have, if nothing else, at least ended any question about that obvious truth.There is truth in that paragraph.
It is a different media world for conservatives and "progressives".
I do not see any similiraties between the two.
henceforth and forevermore, the terms ‘mother’ and ‘pantload’ are forbidden to appear within 60 words of one another.
LOL
Excellent summary of what is behind this mania for Cain and why people had better soon get some common sense. Cain is an empty suit—like Obama he’s a guy with a bloated ego and inflated opinion of himself. Get him off the subject of 9-9-9 and he can only respond with bromides and superficial one liners that suggest he hasn’t even bothered to get informed on vital issues. A recent example is his answer to a question about China as a military threat to the U.S. Sure it is he said, “it’s trying to develop a nuclear capability.” That’s an exact quote. China, as anybody who’s interested in these things knows, has been a major nuclear power for years, since the 1960s. It’s not Iran. Apparently, Cain isn’t aware of that fact. And he doesn’t seem to think that his ignorance should be of concern. “I’ll just get the right experts,” was his answer to a question at the National Press Club about his knowledge of and experience in foreign affairs. Then he went on to compare dealing with foreign policy issues when he becomes president to deciding how to turn around Godfather’s Pizza when it was in financial trouble. God Almighty.
This guy is not ready for prime time and he’s certainly not ready for the White House. With the threats to its very survival that this country is facing, it is no time to nominate an amateur who doesn’t seem to have even an entry level knowledge of these issues. Just because he speaks with absolute self confidence and has an air of authority about everything under the sun doesn’t mean he knows what he’s talking about. He’s on an ego trip just like Obama was. I’m praying that Republican primary voters in 2012 will have more sense than Democratic voters had in 2008.
I personlly know very many Cain supporters; not a single one of them is a "fanatic" or a "swooner."
The nominee will be either Cain, Perry, or Mitt. Mitt can’t WIN the OP nomnation....his support has topped out at about 25%..bu he could manage to back into the nomination, if Perry is unable to restart his campagn, and if Cain somehow self-destructs. ( Note: I support Cain, but it could happen) TheGOP base will NOt support Mitt..minimal volunteers, minimal cash..I couldn’t work in te field for him, nor send him a dime, but te question is would a substantial portion of the GOP base go to the polls and NOT pull the lever forMitt. That’s still to be determined.
He goes on to explain that the leftwing media will prevent Cain from winning.
It's kinda cute, but a little sad, how much power Ziegler imagines the traditional media outlets still have.
In his mind, they decide who will be president, and then they make it so.
If that were so, what ever happened to President Mondale, President Dukakis, President Gore, and President Kerry? Or maybe Ziegler imagines that the incredibly shrinking mainstream media somehow has more power now than they did during those elections, when the internet and alternative media was smaller and less influential.
Ziegler is living in a past that never even really existed. His industry is not the king makers he wishes they were. They pissed away any mojo they once possessed.
Obama is clearly the worst performing President in generations. The unwatched broadcast networks and the barely relevant New York Times cannot save his skinny ass from defeat.
I’m just talking about some of the reactions I have seen here. They’re way over the top.
That said, my point is that the article was absolutely right and that ANY Republican candidate has got to be prepared to be attacked in a way that would never happen, even for identical real or alleged infractions, if they were Dems. If you want to support your guy, you’ve got to encourage him to be prepared for this and to have a plan for responding to it.
My question for John Ziegler is “Why did you turn on Sarah Palin and stab her in the back?”
It’s worse than that, Johnnie.
John Ziegler originally positioned himself as a defender of Sarah Palin when she was being eaten alive by the American media. He did one of the first interviews post 2008 election with Sarah.
Then, he did a 180 degree turn around and stabbed her in the back.
I want to know why, and my opinion of this guy is he is lower than whaleslime.
Let's remember Ziegler is the one turned on Palin like a rattle snake after pimping her non stop just because she wasn't giving him enough attention. He is a genuine POS and is going to be the next David Brock.
Lost me at “Evidence is overwhelming that Romney would have the best chance of defeating O.” Saying it over and over doesn’t make it so. Nobody wants Romney. Not in 08 and not now. If he is so fantastic why don’t his poll numbers reflect it?
If Mitt’s the nominee a third-party conservative challenger is pretty much guaranteed. A choice between Obama and Obama-Lite isn’t a choice.
The question is, will that inspire a fourth-party Ultra-Left candidate?
Disagree. The base will just focus down-ballot..winning the Senate, increasing the House margin, and pickign up several governors slots..If Mitt gets the nomination, and we run a conservative as a 3rd party candidate, we give Obama the win. Just as easy to not vote for him, and a lot cheaper..devote our resources to the key senate/House races, andd we have the same result, we final bury the GOP country club establishment//
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