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The ECAT Floodgates Open! Now what will come out?
Vanity ^ | 10/31/11 | Liberty1970

Posted on 10/31/2011 11:18:45 AM PDT by Liberty1970

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To: mamelukesabre
I have an infrared toaster. Penney's was selling them originally for pret'near $100. I caught the tail end of that failed device and bought a bunch for $10.

They work great, even with brown rice bread.

There's not much waste heat with them.

The point is all electrical functions are becoming more and more efficient, and we have been depending on them for part of our heat. When they are removed from the equation, you really do need something more. E-cat, even as a superefficient battery, would fill the bill. Charge it up during nonproduction hours with no personnel around, and cut it loose to cook during the day.

41 posted on 10/31/2011 1:21:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I would probably choose to increase R-value and decrease infiltration/exfiltration instead.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 1:43:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: muawiyah
Hmm ~ you come up with such great questions that lead instantly to "ANCIENT ALIENS" material.

A much simpler explanation is that Rossi added natural copper to the sample. But if you want to go with ANCIENT ALIENS, that's your choice.

43 posted on 10/31/2011 1:48:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Liberty1970

Thanks, Liberty1970.

This makes sense.


44 posted on 10/31/2011 1:51:29 PM PDT by melancholy (0b0z0's '12 campaign slogan: Read My Lips, Nooo...Newwww...Joooobs.)
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To: Moonman62
It's probably more like this ~ the nickel and copper on Earth arise from the same "source", to wit, the dust left over after formation of the Sun that goes on to turn into meteors that rain down later on covering the surface AFTER the "Iron Catastrophe".

The copper and nickel found in the dust would have been "created at the same time ~ in all of their normal isotopes ~ in a super nova explosion. Copper is a tad heavier than Nickel. Assume for a moment that super nova explosions can fuse elements together, or with spare neutrons and protons, if the 5 stable isotopes of nickel present at the creation were subjected to intense heat, pressure and hard radiation (like in a super nova) you would end up with 5 stable isotopes of copper!

So, Voila ~ 5 naturally occurring isotopes of Nickel built up in the fires of creation into 5 naturally occurring isotopes of copper.

A KOINKYDINK obviously.

So, a test for Rossi or anyone else using Nickel. What you do is ask that your flask of nickel filings be used ~ and you've arranged before hand to make sure it's all one isotope.

Then, at the conclusion of the test you check for copper. If it's all one isotope, then we had a sort of "LENR welding" but if it's different isotopes, somebody has some answers to question eh!

45 posted on 10/31/2011 2:15:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mamelukesabre

You still need to have a minimum level of infiltration of fresh air. Gotta’ cost you something to get it to make the facility suitable for occupation.


46 posted on 10/31/2011 2:17:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

when I walk in my front door, thats infiltration. anything more is wasteful. :)


47 posted on 10/31/2011 2:32:41 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: muawiyah

I like it


48 posted on 10/31/2011 2:35:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: muawiyah

“And the fan blades they’d force him to add to his units ~ they’d be huge ~ and very dangerous that close to the ground!”

I bet there’s a loan guarantee available to Rossi to set the ECAT out in the sun for a while. If you put photovoltaics on it, imagine the possibilities.


49 posted on 10/31/2011 4:15:33 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: muawiyah
So, a test for Rossi or anyone else using Nickel. What you do is ask that your flask of nickel filings be used ~ and you've arranged before hand to make sure it's all one isotope.

Then, at the conclusion of the test you check for copper. If it's all one isotope, then we had a sort of "LENR welding" but if it's different isotopes, somebody has some answers to question eh!

That one's easy! My magic fusion box fused 2 (or 3 or 4) hydrogen atoms with the nickel.

50 posted on 10/31/2011 4:19:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: muawiyah
The copper and nickel found in the dust would have been "created at the same time ~ in all of their normal isotopes ~ in a super nova explosion.

That's the only way elements heavier than iron are created, because the reaction absorbs energy.

51 posted on 10/31/2011 4:27:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Liberty1970; dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...

Thanks for the ping.

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52 posted on 10/31/2011 6:10:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: bigbob

Why? Why not just ignore anything related to ECAT unless and until the proof and documentation is made available?
***A lot of freepers cannot pass up a chance to troll on a thread. Entertainment trolls in particular.


53 posted on 10/31/2011 6:26:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Liberty1970
"When an authoritative book is finally written on the ECAT saga up until now, it's going to be _fascinating_ reading. I can't wait to see how it ends! ;-)"

As Spock would say......"indeed".

54 posted on 10/31/2011 6:30:57 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Liberty1970

my frustration at the often specious reasoning used by those who seem to think they are smarter than everyone else.
***That is much of my frustration as well.


55 posted on 10/31/2011 6:37:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: ModelBreaker

That sounds like a good way to move in on the solar PV game.


56 posted on 10/31/2011 7:00:34 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Liberty1970; All
A similar discussion with more detail, here at this thread, beginning at # 22.
57 posted on 10/31/2011 7:15:47 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Liberty1970

I agree!


58 posted on 10/31/2011 7:16:36 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Liberty1970

The Saudis and Iranians . . . think of how the Israelis feel!


59 posted on 10/31/2011 7:18:03 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Moonman62
# 38

# 39

# 44

60 posted on 10/31/2011 7:24:00 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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