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Part of that is because I am privy to some confidential information about an independent validation by a very credible institution that starts with an N .

Oh, goodie! More "secret" information that is supposed to prove to everyone that this is real.

I would not entirely rule out Steve's accusations of fraud; but I personally find that extremely unlikely. I give it a 1% probability just because I have fooled before by people I thought were genuine but who turned out to be scammers.

So, he's been successfully conned before, but this time it's different.

I don't have a problem with Rossi's experience with the Petrol Dragon. He was set up by the Italian Mafia because he wouldn't let them get involved in his company. They were behind all of that harassment he received, and from which he was exonerated. I would imagine there is something similar behind the gold trafficking situation as well .

A link to any exonerating evidence would be nice. Rossi's convictions and prison time are waved away with the author "imagining" that there must be exonerating evidence, although he apparently doesn't know of any.

My personal experience through phone and email with Steven Krivit is that he is an extremely difficult person to get along with. Cantankerous. Doesn't even try to be friendly. That tells me that today's hit piece is most likely just a function of a bad personality acting out (85% probability). That leaves 1% probability that Krivit is actually right, and a margin of 2% for other scenarios. I could be wrong. I'm certainly human .

So, we're supposed to ignore Rossi's well-documented personality problems, but it's OK to use the author's claim of Krivit having personality issues as an attack against him.

The recent test of the one megawatt plant showed operation in a self sustaining mode for five and a half hours.

So says Rossi. We don't have any actual evidence of this. All we have is Rossi's claim, and his claim that his "secret company" was satisfied with the test.

Andrea Rossi knows the technology works,

So says Rossi. He claims to have heated his factory for six months on a single "fueling", but he hasn't been able (or willing) to publicly demonstrate the system working for more than a few hours.

If the technology did not work, why would he have sold his stake in Leonardo Technologies Inc., properties in Italy, and eventually his home in Florida to finance his work.

Some cynics have suggested that he's liquidating any assets that could be traced back to him.

If the technology did not work, Defkalion and the very credible board of directors would not be so eager to renew their relationship with Rossi .

Thanks for telling us that they are "very credible". From everything I've read, it appears that Defkalion came into existence the same month that Rossi went public with his E-Cat. Their website (http://defkalion-energy.com/) doesn't seem to have any actual information about the company. I would be fascinated to know who theses "very credible" board of directors actually are.

It seems obvious to me, that they are extremely jealous of how much energy the E-Cat can produce .

I guess it's impossible that the critics are critical because they see all the signs of a scam being perpetrated. And, of course, the Mafia would never interfere with someone who might be muscling in on their business (which is not cold fusion research).

I am seeking a business relationship with Andrea Rossi.

This is the same guy who admits at the beginning of the article that he has been successfully conned before. I guess some things never change.

So, he’s been successfully conned before, but this time it’s different.
***Hey, you know how to argue without using classical fallacies. That’s unusual for someone from your perspective.

A link to any exonerating evidence would be nice. Rossi’s convictions and prison time are waved away with the author “imagining” that there must be exonerating evidence, although he apparently doesn’t know of any.
***In other words, imagining the evidence is an argument from silence. A classic fallacy.

So, we’re supposed to ignore Rossi’s well-documented personality problems, but it’s OK to use the author’s claim of Krivit having personality issues as an attack against him.
***I really don’t care about Rossi’s personality. I care about his data.

So says Rossi. We don’t have any actual evidence of this. All we have is Rossi’s claim, and his claim that his “secret company” was satisfied with the test.
***There were others there, like the author of this article. This is the first time I’ve caught you in a distortion. That’s unusual to find someone who can actually stick to the facts to a reasonable extent — until now, but I’ve lowered my standards for pathological skeptics.

So says Rossi. He claims to have heated his factory for six months on a single “fueling”, but he hasn’t been able (or willing) to publicly demonstrate the system working for more than a few hours.
***His customer seemed satisfied.

I would be fascinated to know who theses “very credible” board of directors actually are.
***Unfortunately, here you have slipped into an invalid argument from silence. Produce evidence for or against their credibility.

And, of course, the Mafia would never interfere with someone who might be muscling in on their business (which is not cold fusion research).
***Straw argument. The mafia had moved in on waste management, a more-or-less acknowledged fact on the ground. Rossi’s business was in the way.

I am seeking a business relationship with Andrea Rossi.
***This is probably Sterling Alan’s way of saying “full disclosure”. I would love to be in a business relationship myself with Rossi. I would try my best to discover ways this could be a scam, and I would also love to be involved with such a tremendously disruptive technology if it’s real. I’ve looked enough into the forensics to think that it is similar to what the author says, 99% chance it’s real.