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Marco Rubio 2012. No reason Rubio couldn't declare. He'd win.
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Posted on 10/23/2011 5:01:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Great...another blood before country sort

Just what we need


181 posted on 10/24/2011 12:12:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: left that other site

What about the attacks here on Bachmann and Perry earlier?

Dont think for a moment that if the zealots thought Palin was in this race they would not hesitate to butcher Rubio too if he announc
Worse that WashPo or Miami Herald

You people do know Rubio opposes Alabama and Arizona laws?

Primary politics here are worse than Fellini

And yes count me too as very disappointed in Sarah Palin...that was a ridiculous ride


182 posted on 10/24/2011 12:21:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: 9YearLurker

Thanks finally some sanity on the thread

This forum’s love for any minority candidate and instant cult of personality jump up over the next Reagan-Palin...is just plain silly

Like high school girl fawning and cackles


183 posted on 10/24/2011 12:24:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: wardaddy

“Primary politics here are worse than Fellini”

LOL!

I love that someone other than me has noticed that. ;o)


184 posted on 10/24/2011 12:25:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB)
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To: Danae

Yes, and I say it again.

Be thankful no court will remove a Presidential candidate from a state ballot.


185 posted on 10/24/2011 2:38:18 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: wardaddy

Yes. Some of the worst attacks on decent (but not perfect!) conservatives can be found right here on FR.

And I knew that about Rubio.
He definitely falls short on some specific issues, but is light years ahead of what we had before.


186 posted on 10/24/2011 5:06:17 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: cynwoody
"Dual citizenship is a total wild card."

You are either born with total allegiance to one country or split allegiance to two countries depending upon the citizenship status of your parents. This One or the other, not a wild card. One of these categories was what the founders were protecting us from with the eligibility requirements.

"A candidate's possible dual citizenship is irrelevant unless he renounced his US citizenship or failed the 14-year residency requirement.

You cannot erase the term "natural born" from the eligibility requirements nor can you change that terms meaning to those who inserted it. Irrelevant? The founders certainly didn't agree with you as they saw to it to include this provision as a requirement for President. They wrote the constitution. If you disagree, pass an amendment, but don't pretend that the requirement doesn't exist or is "irrelevant".

187 posted on 10/24/2011 5:13:48 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: buccaneer81

Finally, the full and complete definition of the term “Ludicrous.”


188 posted on 10/24/2011 6:03:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: left that other site

anyone is light years ahead of Obama

but if you fall short on immigration wee will be killed by demographics


189 posted on 10/24/2011 7:30:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: wardaddy

Yep. Somehow Cain, West and Rubio are all instant presidential or VP material, and the usual rules of at least some executive (or legislative!) political experience don’t apply.


190 posted on 10/24/2011 7:35:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: wardaddy

I am in agreement with you about demographics.

It’s the black fly in Rubio’s Chardonnay.


191 posted on 10/24/2011 7:46:35 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: Jacquerie

You want to explain why? Otherwise I will just put it up there with wailing the sky is falling...


192 posted on 10/24/2011 8:03:13 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

I did. Post #96.


193 posted on 10/24/2011 8:35:07 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: Jacquerie

You didn’t answer why the Judicial branch is a lesser branch and not a part of checks and balances.

Why are you pushing an unconstitutional meme? The Judicial Branch SHOULD be able to say - oops, no, you aren’t qualified legally to run. Want to justify why you believe that the Judicial Branch should NOT uphold our laws?


194 posted on 10/24/2011 9:42:58 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Finally, the full and complete definition of the term “Ludicrous.”

Ever heard of the words "inalienable rights" in the Declaration of Independence? It refers to Natural Law.

You don't believe you have a natural right to things like life, liberty and self-defense? You believe that only laws made by man "grant" you those rights? Rights granted by man made law can also be revoked.

I was lucky to receive an education that taught me about concepts such as natural law. I'm sorry that everyone hasn't had the same opportunity. One more reason we need to destroy government control of education.

195 posted on 10/24/2011 10:20:47 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Which has nothing to do with the candidate’s parents.

Show me a chapter IN LAW or in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that mentions parents.


196 posted on 10/24/2011 10:38:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The Constitution speaks for itself. Just as the Second Amendment does.

Show me in the 2nd where it says individuals may keep and bear arms. It doesn't, yet we know it means just that. Why? Because of the writings of the founders. The same applies to NBC. The Federalist Papers being the source of the writings.

197 posted on 10/24/2011 12:22:28 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Danae
Listen up. If you wish to stay snarky, that is your decision. But be aware I am more than capable of returning any insulting crap you can come up with. I have responded respectfully to you. Any further insults from you and I will happily respond it kind. Got it?

First, search my posts to this thread. I do not intend to repeat myself for you any further.

Back to business. With one exception, the framers carefully kept the supreme court out of politics. They considered and rejected the council of revision, as well as impeachment trials by the supreme court. The exception is having the Chief Justice preside over the Senate trial. Recall the Clinton impeachment trial? Rehnquist might as well not have been there. The pols ran the political tribunal.

In Article I Section 5 they gave each House the sole power to judge the elections, returns and qualifications of their members. It is therefore unconstitutional for Scotus to interfere and boot Congressional candidates off a ballot.

As for the President, I explained in the post you gaffed off. The means exist for the political branches to keep a foreign born immigrant out of the White House. That they do not do so is no reason to punt this issue, like so many others, to the courts. The branch most isolated from the people have no business telling us whom we cannot vote for.

It is essential to keep Scotus out of this because the Left builds on any foothold you give them. I don't fear a panel of judges will select a President in my lifetime, but given the chance, I know the left will eventually take over the process, say in some phony emergency and decide who is to be El Presidente.

If that is too far fetched, think what the Left has done with the simple commerce clause, which is among the most innocuous, innocent enumerated powers in our Constitution. This power to regulate trade and the movement of goods has morphed into a Marxist club. It is currently being used to beat us into Obamacare.

So that is what I fear. To get Scotus involved will only further decay our representative republic into an oligarchical tyranny of nine justices, the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, and El Supremo Presidente.

The choices are awful. I prefer, based on the efforts and logic of our Framers to keep Scotus entirely out of the Presidential election business.

198 posted on 10/24/2011 2:43:10 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: Jacquerie
You didn’t answer why the Judicial branch is a lesser branch and not a part of checks and balances. Why are you pushing an unconstitutional meme? The Judicial Branch SHOULD be able to say - oops, no, you aren’t qualified legally to run. Want to justify why you believe that the Judicial Branch should NOT uphold our laws?

Ok, sister, you want to explain where the insult is? How about the snark?

You want to see me get snarky? Oh I rather think not.

Well, considering I didn't get either insulting or snarky... you can take your attitude and shove it. I neither have the time to go back and "read your posts", nor the desire for a headache.

The Judicial branch of government is 1/3rd of our government. When a candidate presents themselves for an office they do not qualify for, they SHOULD involve themselves. That is their JOB. They are the third branch, but they are not doing their job. The Judiciary as a whole is no longer dedicated to the law, they are dedicated to issues. But that is another story.

I want the constitution upheld by all three branches of government. I am not in the least interested in your prevarications. 100% I am not interested in your whiney bs about insults when you didn’t get any to begin with. I asked you to explain yourself three times. You refused and just popped off with more.. "Thank goodness" baloney.

We need all three branches of government functioning as they were intended to by the Framers of the constitution. Not this bastardized form of democracy and socialism the Obama administration is shoving down our throats BECAUSE HE CAN; that’s what an unconstitutional POTUS can do sister. Take heed of the lesson, if the congress fails to uphold the constitution, then it falls to SCOTUS. That is how it is SUPPOSED to work. That is why the Chief Justice swears in the new POTUS. Roberts SCREWED us by not questioning Obama’s eligibility, and I believe the whole court knows this.

If you want to post on this forum, be prepared to back up your opinions with a good argument, and be prepared to get challenged. That’s part of DEBATE. So stop taking it personally or go find another forum. FR isn't for whiney sissies.

Now, I would suggest you leave off on this topic with me. I will eat your lunch if you go and slap down any more dishonest accusations. I am in no mood for BS Jacquerie. I have got a LOT on my mind.
199 posted on 10/24/2011 5:04:34 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

Blow it out your ass.

Sweetie.

Fight’s on.


200 posted on 10/24/2011 5:18:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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