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To: caveat emptor
Taking excessive vitamin supplements has nothing to do with longevity. I already said this above, but I'll say it again:

Say it again if you like, but saying it a third time won't make it true.

Nor does denying it multiple times make it false. You might try reading some medical history and finding out for yourself exactly what the significant life-extending advances in medical science were.

As recently as three years ago, I read that infectious disease is responsible for more than half af all deaths. It is, and will remain for the foreseeable future, a major public health concern.

Estrogen seems to have a protective effect against heart disease... It has nothing to do with monthly loss of iron.

The reverse of your claims is well established.

Um...really? I suggest you Google "menopause and heart disease." You will be able to find at least one article that mentions the protective effect of estrogen on heart health. It's an association that's been known for decades.

Scientists are becoming more interested in these questions, which is good—but, given the amount of money in the vitamin industry, getting funding to do those studies may be problematic.

Your view that the "Vitamin industry" is so powerful that it makes medical research funding "problematic", while ignoring the multibillion dollar drug business is quaint, but charming.

I do not recall mentioning "power" here, nor would I have any reason to do so. This concept of "power" as you use it is alien to me.

What I'm talking about is economics. Drug companies devote a huge amount of time, effort, and money into drug development. They are quite willing to allow researchers to investigate their drugs. In my experience, having had a drug company representative urge me to contact him regarding a collaboration he wanted to develop because of where I did research, they welcome and financially support research. Because, to the drug companies, increasing the amount of research into their drugs increases the possibilities of finding new applications (thus, new markets) for their drugs, as well as speeding the lengthy approval process.

On the other hand, vitamin manufacturers aren't very eager to fund research, especially since they are quite aware that most of the research today does not support a bona ride need for routine trace nutrient supplementation. From an economic standpoint, funding such research is the last thing they want to do.

When you read articles claiming all these wonderful miraculous benefits from consuming excess trace nutrients, pay attention to who is funding the article. That should tell you a lot.

42 posted on 10/16/2011 11:28:57 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
I'm busy and won't have much time for a few days but will make a few comments.

Nor does denying it multiple times make it false. [re longevity]

Your tu quoque argument doesn't work here. You're the one harping on the issue.

You might try reading some medical history and finding out for yourself exactly what the significant life-extending advances in medical science were.

Uh Oh. Your superciliousness is rearing it's ugly head (again). I could suggest a few books for you, but you seem so in thrall to the drug lobby (hereinafter, "Thralldom Theory") and so lacking in specifics that I won't bother. I will suggest that you take some advice from this guy. (first quote)

I suggest you Google "menopause and heart disease." You will be able to find at least one article that mentions the protective effect of estrogen on heart health.

Wow. Try googling "how many swallows make a spring", without quotes.

Your view that the "Vitamin industry" is so powerful that it makes medical research funding "problematic", while ignoring the multibillion dollar drug business is quaint, but charming.

I do not recall mentioning "power" here, nor would I have any reason to do so. This concept of "power" as you use it is alien to me.

Gee willikers, Ms. Science. And I thought you were relatively fluent in English. Sorry, I'll try again, with an update.

Your view that the "Vitamin industry" is so powerful that it spends money and makes medical research funding "problematic", while ignoring the close to half trillion dollar drug business is quaint but charming. Sales of Lipitor alone were over 12 billion dollars in 2008.

As recently as three years ago, I read that infectious disease is responsible for more than half af [sic] all deaths.

You're kidding. The most frequent 7 causes of death in the US in 2007 comprised just over 70% of the total.

When you read articles claiming all these wonderful miraculous benefits from consuming excess trace nutrients

There you go again.

What I'm talking about is economics.....pay attention to who is funding the article.

Right. See Thralldom Theory above.

Don't call me, I'll call you.


44 posted on 10/17/2011 1:06:35 PM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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