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Messiah College crowd pushes back on Frances Fox Piven’s accusations of Tea Party racism (VIDEO)
Hotair ^ | 10/12/2011 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 10/13/2011 3:30:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Kudos to the crowd on this one. No surprise that Frances Fox Piven would repeat the typical, brain-dead, rooted-in-unreality accusation that the Tea Party is racist — but rather a surprise that a little push-back inspired her to stop clutching her talking points quite so tightly.

Early in her lecture on American democracy at the private Christian college in Pennsylvania earlier this week, Piven spouts the usual drivel, suggesting Tea Partiers aren’t comfortable with Barack Obama as president because he’s black. The comment drew displeased expressions and a few boos. Piven looks at the audience with an intrigued expression and asks, “Are you all Tea Partiers?” Undeterred, she continues. One Tea Partier in the crowd spoke up further. “As long as he follows the Constitution, we don’t care what color he is,” the protester says audibly. His rebuttal draws cheers from the crowd.

But later, she tries again: The Tea Party, she says, convinces itself it’s less racist than it is by propping up a candidate like Herman Cain. The students aren’t convinced. Eventually, it’s Piven who’s forced to concede: She clarifies that she doesn’t think the entire Tea Party is motivated by racism or that racism is the only motivation. The Tea Party, she says, is an “authentic” movement. My, how gracious!

Seriously, how did we arrive at this point? Piven’s backtracking wasn’t particularly open-minded, her amended quotes not particularly accurate. Whatever she said appears to have come as much from genuine surprise at encountering any kind of an opposing view as from a true reconsideration of her assumptions. Yet, this has to be considered some kind of crowd victory because the unfounded insults levied at a group of ordinary men and women concerned about the growth of government have only escalated since the first cries of racism surfaced. What will it take to reclaim the image of the Tea Party from the mischaracterizations of the left? Simple statements like that made by the man in this crowd are a start, but Tea Partiers will have to be as relentless in the rebuttals as opponents are in their attacks.

Below, the relevant portions of Piven’s speech (h/t Media Research Center):

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TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; francesfoxpiven; hermancain; messiahcollege; pennsylvania; racism; teaparty
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1 posted on 10/13/2011 3:30:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s not used to being challenged.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 3:32:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: SeekAndFind

More dribble from a clown.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 3:34:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cripplecreek

I give her some points for going to a conservative college. Notice, unlike the experience of Ann Coulter, she does not need bodyguards or people to guard her from assault.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 3:35:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
The fact that a Christian college with the name of Messiah invited this reprobate to speak should send chills down the spines of all God fearing people who are called by the label of Christianity.
5 posted on 10/13/2011 3:38:49 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is revealing in that it show you how slurs occur and in the old Goebbels fashion telling a lie often enough can make it the truth in many people's minds whether it is or not. This is insidious.

There is absolute ZERO evidence that the tea party is a racist movement. Absolutely ZERO. But in the minds of many it's true because someone said it was true. If I said the moon was made out of green cheese, doesn't make it so. But because many want to believe something doesn't make it true. Now if you look hard enough you might find some racists in the tea party movement. But if you look hard enough you can find racists in the American Kennel Club, but that doesn't make the AKC a racist organization. You can find plenty of racists in the NAACP, that's for sure.

We need to challenge people like this is despicable woman (and people who know about this woman know she is) when they make outrageous statement. Do not let her get away with this Goebbels trick.
6 posted on 10/13/2011 3:39:11 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: SeekAndFind

People like Piven are in more danger from the monster of their own creation. On the other hand, her supporters are in danger from people like Piven if she ever got real power.

Once they have power, marxists have little use for rabble rousers like the OWS crowd. Much like Che Guevera, who helped Castro seize power, then fled in fear for his life. He knew Castro would kill him eventually.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 3:40:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals are always astonished when someone challenges them. They simply cannot believe that it will happen at an indoctrination center, oops, sorry, I mean on a college campus.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 3:40:22 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ignorant woman; many of us in the Tea Party back Herman Cain. Duh! - It’s Obama’s Marxist “theories” we don’t like.


9 posted on 10/13/2011 3:42:11 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: truthguy

For those who don’t know Frances Fox Piven, here’s a brief introduction:

Frances Fox Piven (born 1932) is an American professor of political science and sociology at The Graduate Center, City University of New York, where she has taught since 1982.

Piven was married to her long-time collaborator Richard Cloward until his death in 2001.

Together with Cloward, she wrote an article in the May 1966 issue of The Nation titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” advocating increased enrollment in social welfare programs in order to collapse that system and force reforms, leading to a guaranteed annual income.

This political strategy has been referred to as the “Cloward–Piven strategy”.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 3:42:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Come on. She’s just a little cookie baking grandma.


11 posted on 10/13/2011 3:43:13 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind
The Tea Party, she says, convinces itself it’s less racist than it is by propping up a candidate like Herman Cain.

I am SO sick and tired of these leftist scum sucking pigs getting away with this crap. They need to be confronted! When she says the above, someone needs to demand that she specifically state just what it is ABOUT Herman Cain that makes him so attractive to racists!

Or when that rat ba$tard leftist congress-critter stated that there are members of congress who would like to see Black people hanging from trees, he needs to be confronted with "NAME THE CONGRESSMAN OR CONGRESSWOMAN WHO WANTS TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE HANGING FROM TREES!"

They MUST no longer be allowed to get away with this crap! We must not allow them to drive the conversation and shut us up! That's why they use the word "racist" like a club. That club needs to be parried and as with Jujitsu, that force needs to be turned back against the attacker. If some leftist who doesn't know me dares to call me a racist, I do not try to convince him otherwise. I just immediately call him a child molester! It tends to shut them down even than the "racist" label does to most Conservatives. We can no longer try to make them like us. Part of being a leftist is the hubris that you're always right, and no matter how much damage they cause from their policies, they can always convince themselves that they meant well. That they did it for the "greater good." And since they're striving for that "greater good," that makes anyone who opposed them not just wrong, but EVIL!

Face it, they're leftists, they will NEVER like conservatives, nor anyone they can't control and dominate.

Mark

12 posted on 10/13/2011 3:52:05 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: cripplecreek
She’s not used to being challenged.

Of course not, she's a leftist college professor, which means if a student challenges her ideas, they immediately get a failing grade and blackballed from the degree program. She's a bully.

Mark

13 posted on 10/13/2011 3:54:45 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: cripplecreek
Much like Che Guevera, who helped Castro seize power, then fled in fear for his life. He knew Castro would kill him eventually.

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing, but with different examples: Hitler, the SA, and the "Night of the Long Knives," and then there was Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky in the USSR.

Mark

14 posted on 10/13/2011 4:00:11 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: SeekAndFind

In spite of the Occupy Wall Street losers, I think we are about to experience of another emerging greatest generation. Good for these kids to stand up for common sense!


15 posted on 10/13/2011 4:26:47 PM PDT by tunedin
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

see MarkL’s comment (#12).


16 posted on 10/13/2011 6:00:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind

The world would be a better place if she’d been giving a lap dance to Julius Rosenberg on June 19, 1953.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 6:03:31 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SunkenCiv

Bully. Won't be for much longer...

18 posted on 10/13/2011 6:10:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ew.


19 posted on 10/14/2011 4:05:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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20 posted on 10/14/2011 5:35:35 AM PDT by Pilsner
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