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To: chuckee

The short answer is... No. It is illegal for the federal government of the United States to kill a citizen without trial and conviction.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 6:52:45 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Tell it to the thousands dead in civil war cemeteries all over the eastern United States. As far as I know there wasn’t any attempt to arrest and prosecute rebels. They were simply shot and killed. Were they not?


16 posted on 09/30/2011 6:58:47 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: ColdSteelTalon

“The short answer is... No. It is illegal for the federal government of the United States to kill a citizen without trial and conviction.”

I heard Krauthammer today cite the legal argument on the other side that we killed plenty of citizens during the civil war because the union never recognized the confederacy, still considered confederates US citizens who were “insurgents”.


19 posted on 09/30/2011 7:00:39 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: ColdSteelTalon
No. It is illegal for the federal government of the United States to kill a citizen without trial and conviction

Sez who?

The President, when waging war, is free to attack any enemy abroad. If Congress thinks that he has waged war against American citizens without cause, it can impeach him. I'm sure Ron Paul is willing to introduce articles of impeachment, against B.O. for killing this guy. Perhaps Dennis Kucinich will support the resolution. The House can vote on it, and it will lose 433-2. That is due process.

24 posted on 09/30/2011 7:06:35 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: ColdSteelTalon

The key word in the question was “legally”. ColdSteelTalon has the correct answer to that question. Should the question have had the word “justified” in place of legally, then the answer would have been no.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 7:09:39 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: ColdSteelTalon

The key word in the question was “legally”. ColdSteelTalon has the correct answer to that question. Should the question have had the word “justified” in place of legally, then the answer would have been yes.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 7:10:27 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: ColdSteelTalon
The short answer is... No. It is illegal for the federal government of the United States to kill a citizen without trial and conviction.

The Union and Confederate Lawyers Duke It Out in Court


28 posted on 09/30/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Even a citizen can’t attempt acts of war against America and expect criminal due process. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 7:17:55 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: ColdSteelTalon
War isn't about who is correct. It's about who survives.

Yes. We did kill him, therefore we can.

Was is lawful? Probably, given United States Codes.

Was it just? He was waging war against us, and had forfeited rights based on point #2. I believe it was just.

Would I do it? ...... It would suck, but yes. I would wade into that hog pen and use my carver to do that. Fortunately, the US Govt has higher tech than I'm willing to develop/use.

/johnny

54 posted on 09/30/2011 8:45:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
The short answer is... No. It is illegal for the federal government of the United States to kill a citizen without trial and conviction.

The federal government killed scores of people in 1993 at Waco, TX. None of them had a trial or conviction. Just one example.

65 posted on 09/30/2011 9:28:48 PM PDT by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

So if an American took up with the Japanese or German militaries during WWII, we’d need a trial trial and conviction before shooting them?


82 posted on 10/01/2011 12:44:56 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

The constitutional answer is yes. The President is the Commander-in-Chief of the military and has the power to wage war. This mutt was an illegal combatant, siding with the countries enemies and was fair game.

Sorry of you don’t like this, but there are many Supreme Court cases that support this. And the Constitution does as well.

Hope this helps;


83 posted on 10/01/2011 8:21:09 PM PDT by WillLong
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