To: patlin
“But Vattel didn’t make up this definition out of some great revelation of his own, He took it from the Scriptures which he quotes quite incessantly in his works as well as that of Locke, Grotius, Pufendorf, etc whom all proceeded Vattel in writing on Natural law & International Law of Nations and whom all relied on the Scriptures for definitions of natural citizenry. “
Sorry to disappoint you, but Vattel doesn’t count for squat on who is or is not a natural born citizen. He wasn’t discussing English law at the time, but continental law.
Maybe you find English and US law contrary to God’s revealed ideas of citizenship. Good luck pushing that!
In fact, based on citizenship in heaven, I’d have to guess it is all voluntary...
331 posted on
09/29/2011 6:37:52 PM PDT by
Mr Rogers
("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
To: Mr Rogers
When determining citizenship of the minor children of aliens, first & foremost, international law of nations MUST be looked at because the parents are not citizens and have no say in our political process and thus neither do the children who needs the parent to consent for them. You see we ARE a country of citizenship by consent, from birth to death. PERIOD! But hey, if you still like the oppressive feudal law, there are plenty of communist countries who would probably welcome someone with your point of view.
335 posted on
09/29/2011 6:49:19 PM PDT by
patlin
("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
To: Mr Rogers
In fact, based on citizenship in heaven, I’d have to guess it is all voluntary... WOW, you were right 2x today. Just as YHVH has never forced his heavenly citizenship on anyone, neither has US Law because it goes against the Laws of Nature & of Nature's God as declared in the Declaration of Independence which proclaims man hold the right to choose for himself and the last I checked, a newborn infant just seconds old is not a man with the legal right to consent to anything.
337 posted on
09/29/2011 6:55:23 PM PDT by
patlin
("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
To: Mr Rogers
Did Morse obtain his definition of natural born in the 1797 English edition of the Law of Nations or Droit des Gens?
To: Mr Rogers
Pls translate for us..beginning with Les naturels..lets see if it is different than Morse?
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