Has anyone else noticed this?
I mean, come on. 3 policemen, waiting in ambush with guns drawn. They should be able to protect the crowd against one armed bad guy. But no, it was THEMSELVES they were protecting -- which is fine -- but at least they could have waited for SOME form of aggression from Scott before dropping him dead. And at least they could have given him at least ONE option to not get shot.
Now I agree that anyone who carries concealed should make absolutely that it's 100% concealed 100% of the time when in public, just because there are stupid people out there. But whatever Scott did do, it wasn't worthy of the death penalty.
I think Mosher's problem was that he wanted to reduce his perceived chance of being shot from 5% to 0% even if he had to kill someone to do it. And that, my friend, stems from believing that the life of a policeman is intrinsically more valuable then the life of an ordinary human being.
Police shoot people for disobeying orders?
In the same position if they said drop it, I would drop whatever was in my hands put my hands over my head and not move. Don't say anything and listen. If they are screaming conflicting commands, keep your hands over your head, drop to your knees and prone yourself out. Face down, arms straight out, toes out, feet spread. The advantage of this is that you don't get your hand close to your gun, and you are going into a compliant position even a screaming cop will recognize as a good thing for him. Expect hard physical contact like a knee on your neck when they come in to cuff you.
I'm sure somebody will call me a boot licker, but I would prefer to get cuffed than shot. If you carried concealed you need to be prepared for contact with amped up police. I know that isn't right or fair, but cuffs are better than getting shot. Follow signs restricting carriage of guns (like the ones posted at the front of every Costco). You can't get arrested for not following those signs in Nevada, but you will at a minimum be asked to leave under threat of trespass. The law doesn't normally allow that in Nevada, but remember Costco is a "club" so the law doesn't protect you there.
You’re really dragging one up from the past. I think if it was up to Scott, he would have stayed home which is what he should have done. It was his girlfriend who dragged him out in public that day. She was also the one who was getting him the illegal amounts of pain killers and Xanax. Scott had also been in an unusually high number of traffic accidents in the months before the shooting. Probably from being impaired.
Ambush? Why would you say that? I'm sure it's not because you are biased against the police.
I don't recall Mosher calculating his probability of being shot. Was that in his testimony?
“Scott does the very best thing possible - removes the whole holster so he can drop the gun without unholstering it.”
Do you really think that was the best thing possible? Moving your hands to within inches of the gun?
What he should have done is exactly what someone else said: Put up his hands. Up over his head, or clasped behind his head. It’s all about the hands.
No sudden moves. No unnecessary moves. No moves that might be misinterpreted.
Attempting to drop the holster sounds very much like what someone on drugs would do.
You're not serious.
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Is it safe to drop a loaded weapon?