Posted on 09/18/2011 9:11:14 PM PDT by Immerito
NORWALK, Calif. (KABC) -- The owner of a dog shot dead by Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies Saturday is speaking out about the way the situation was handled.
Deputies were canvassing a Norwalk neighborhood for a man with a gun at 161 Street about 3:30 p.m.
Eddie Perez says they asked him to remove his pit bull from the backyard so they could search it. He says he told the deputies he needed a leash for the 2-year-old dog, Ziggy, but says he was ordered to bring the dog out anyway.
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1) Cops ask owner to remove his dog from the backyard so they can search it.
2) Owner tells cops he needs to get a leash for his dog.
3) Deputies refuse to allow owner to leash his animal.
4) Owner's Dog is now out of yard sans leash.
5) Owner's Dog sees police dog.
6) Owner's Dog attacks police dog.
7) Owner pleads with officers to tase his dog; his pleas are ignored.
8) Cops shoot dog, then leave the scene (what about the man for whom they claim to be searching?)
9)Deputies never did search the man's backyard (then why ask him to remove the dog in the first place?)
10) Owner (not the deputies) finds the suspect's gun.
Some dogs are more equal than others.
4) Owner’s Dog is now out of yard sans leash.
Correction: 4) Owner’s Dog is now out of backyard sans leash.
Wouldn't they think that the suspect would either be cornered by the barking dog, or be long gone if the dog is quiet?
The article says that the owner found the suspect's gun, which argues for #2, the suspect was no longer in the backyard when the police showed up. Also, given that the suspect dropped the gun, I'd argue that the pitbull chased the suspect away.
-PJ
3) OUGHT TO have been followed by 4) Owner refuses to let dog out of yard (and maybe, owner calls dog into house). Don’t yield an inch to the dogshooters.
Presumably, the owner was ignorant of the urge some cops have to shoot dogs.
In hindsight, the dog should have been brought inside (assuming no cops were therein), but hindsight won’t bring the dog back.
It seems the whole neighborhood got an education on their local Agents of the State.
Suppose this will chill future cooperation with the local police department should anything else happen in the neighborhood?
Pigs.
Oh, meow yourself.
An insult to real swine, who never shot any dog.
Something is missing. Like why did the owner not bring the dog into the house? Back yards are typically connected to the house via a door way or garage.
Did the police order him to set his dog loose without a leash or muzzle where it could be a danger and nuisance to others?
Why didn’t the man just go get a leash?
If it went down exactly as the story has been told, then it’s really horrible thing and the officers just ought to be punished.
But these stories are written to incite. It’s rare when they contain 100% of the facts.
I’ve said no to cops ... San Diego. Once for searching my Van after being stopped for broken tail light (which wasn’t) — the day after OK city bombing, another for telling me to let them in to my house after arresting me while I was doing lawn work (for a 10 year old traffic ticket). It was all very non-confrontational. I just told them “I won’t physically stop you”, but I do not consent.
In this case a simple, no, I’m getting a leash and the cops either have to accede, or dig themselves further in by actually violating your property rights.
ping
The neighbors were also horrified.
As for the pitbull, the owner recognized that his dog should not attack the officer’s dog, which is why he urged that the dog be tazed.
Moreover, not very long ago, it was rottweilers, dobermans and German Shepherds who were the dog of choice for the criminal element. Their notoriety has faded, but the bad owners remain and have selected an entire type of dogs (The type “pit bull” encompasses many breeds, especially when some in the criminal element mate different breeds together for the sole reason of producing more aggressive dogs) to boost their egos and their cred.
This will be the case when pit bull-type dogs cease to be the fad du jour for criminals. Then a new “killer breed” will be fed to the public as the latest object of fear.
The neighbors were also horrified.
As for the pitbull, the owner recognized that his dog should not attack the officer’s dog, which is why he urged that the dog be tazed.
Moreover, not very long ago, it was rottweilers, dobermans and German Shepherds who were the dog of choice for the criminal element. Their notoriety has faded, but the bad owners remain and have selected an entire type of dogs (The type “pit bull” encompasses many breeds, especially when some in the criminal element mate different breeds together for the sole reason of producing more aggressive dogs) to boost their egos and their cred.
This will be the case when pit bull-type dogs cease to be the fad du jour for criminals. Then a new “killer breed” will be fed to the public as the latest object of fear.
Good thing. The owner is likely to be charged with keeping a dangerous dog or some such charge.
He is also likely to get a bill for any vet services related to his dog attacking the police dog.
“This will be the case when pit bull-type dogs cease to be the fad du jour for criminals. Then a new “killer breed” will be fed to the public as the latest object of fear.”
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Up to and until that point is reached, I will continue to punch the ticket of every errant pit bull that ventures onto my tiny piece of America. Score:Home 7 Pit bull 0
It's because the Sheriff's Department opted not talk.
>>The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department has not commented on the incident.<<
LASD - HQ Newsroom (SHB), Los Angeles County Sheriff
Sunday September 18th, 2011 :: 09:04 p.m. PDT
Sheriff's K-9 bit on throat, deputy forced to shoot pit bull dog, Norwalk
In response to a call of several gang members, including one armed with a gun, at Hermosillo Park at 3:30PM on Saturday, September 17th, Norwalk Sheriff's Station deputies went to the scene. Upon seeing deputies arrive, the gang members ran away. A deputy saw a man with a gun running towards a nearby residential neighborhood in the 12000 block of 161st St., Norwalk.
Norwalk deputies surrounded the neighborhood in an effort to contain the armed suspect, and called for back up from the Sheriff's Special Enforcement Bureau - Special Weapons Team, and Sheriff's K-9 and handler deputy.
In preparing to conduct a house to house search for the armed suspect, deputies notified people in the neighborhood that they were beginning a search, which would include the use of sheriff's K-9 "Tosca," and handler.
A man at a home, whose back yard was the last seen location of the armed suspect, was asked to secure a pit bull dog that was in the back yard so that deputies could search the yard. While attempting to secure the pit bull, it overpowered the owner, causing him to lose control of the pit bull.
The pit bull charged into the middle of the street toward deputies and attacked Tosca, the sheriff's K-9, as it stood on the end of its leash next to its deputy handler.
The pit bull bit Tosca on its throat and pinned it on its back in the street. Deputies attempted to kick the pit bull away, and pull K-9 Tosca away from the pit bull's attack.
Deputies were very concerned that if further alternate methods were used, and were unsuccessful in immediately stopping the pit bull's vicious attack, K-9 Tosca could have been killed, and the pit bull could have then turned its attack on nearby community members and deputies. Due to the aggressive and violent nature of the pit bull the deputy was forced to shoot it. The pit bull released its bite on the sheriff's K-9, and later died.
The sheriff's K-9 is doing well and is expected to survive. During the search for the armed suspect, three known gang members (all men), were arrested for parole violations.
Shortly after the incident, a resident at the location where the pit bull lived found a fully loaded handgun in their backyard. Deputies were notified and retrieved the gun which is being held as evidence.
The Sheriff's Canine (K-9) Services Detail is primarily responsible for assisting patrol stations by conducting searches for felony and/or armed suspects with the use of specially trained dogs and their handlers. The Detail also supports the Sheriff's Enforcement Bureau-Special Weapons Teams on all call-outs, as well as during the service of high-risk search/arrest warrants.
Mike Parker, Captain
Sheriff’s Headquarters Bureau – Newsroom
Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department
(323) 267-4800
One person has been exonerated in this shooting.
Apparently, Deputy Michael Vick was in Atlanta at the time of the shooting.
And until then, only the symptom, not the root of the problem will have been dealt with.
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