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Old (2008) - Lawyers Filing Suit - Gardasil Has Suspected Link To Paralysis, Brain Damage & Death
Digital Journal ^ | 7/6/2008 | Pamela Jean

Posted on 09/17/2011 10:49:16 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen

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Immediately following it's FDA approval, Merck went on a nationwide campaign to make the vaccine mandatory, actively urging legislatures in all 50 states to pass laws requiring all school aged girls to be treated with the drug. Following heaving criticism from the media and other organizations, Merck dropped the push for state mandates in February 2006, instead concentrating on major ad campaigns urging the general female population to obtain the vaccine in order to prevent cervical cancer. Texas was the only state to pass laws mandating the vaccine before Merck withdrew it's efforts.

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Under the federal law passed in the late 1980s, victims of vaccines may file a claim under the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, but cannot sue the pharmaceutical company. Last year, the government added HPV to a list of vaccines, including polio, hepatitis and measles, granted immunity from suit. A New York Post analysis of adverse event reports filed through April 30 of 2008 found that about 20 percent of such reports followed injections of Gardasil.

If victims prove a vaccine likely caused injuries, the program pays a maximum $250,000 for death. The average payment for injury has been $1 million.

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Dr. John Iskander, the CDC's acting director for immunization safety, says that the CDC has investigated 10 of the reported deaths and has found no conclusive evidence linking the vaccine. He went on to state that "although it is sad that young, healthy young women die for no apparent reason" there was no conclusive evidence that Gardasil had created the adverse reactions experienced by the dead women, or those suffering from seizures, paralysis and brain damage. The only common side effect of the vaccine, according Dr. Iskander, is fainting.

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To: driftdiver
Why else would he support using tax dollars to help illegals get an education?

Because most of them have been here all their lives, gone to public schools FREE, and meet the criteria of other instate kids. They pay tuition.

They are paying the same tuition other kids pay. He is NOT "using tax dollars."

How many illegals do you think have immigrated to TX for their kids to have instate tuition? LMAO!

81 posted on 09/18/2011 5:26:19 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

“They are paying the same tuition other kids pay. He is NOT “using tax dollars.””

They pay in-state tuition which is supported by tax dollars. The true cost of tuition is represented by the out of state tuition costs.

How many illegals went to texas for the schools? How many are helped by this and the many other programs the leftists use to weaken america and destroy our national unity.

You may find the millions of illegals in America to be funny, I don’t.


82 posted on 09/18/2011 5:36:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ontap

So why are you ignoring Perry’s warts and celebrating Bachmanns?


83 posted on 09/18/2011 5:37:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m not celebrating or ignoring either one, just acknowledging they both have them. I’m not sold on Rick Perry but he’s taking a lot of gruff some of it he deserves some of it has been exaggerated. He won two elections after most of it in one of the most conservative states in the union. While he’s not Ronald Reagan non of the others in this field is either.


84 posted on 09/18/2011 5:55:25 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

What is exaggerated?

He supports illegal immigrants.
He used to be a democrat.
He’s a long time politician.

He is just as much a RINO as Romney. He’s been proclaimed the ‘leader’ by the GOP establishment and the media. Not by conservative voters.

People need to know more about him before we get closer to the primaries.


85 posted on 09/18/2011 5:58:33 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

All three of those things could be said of Ronald Reagan. he hasn’t been proclaimed the leader by anyone he’s just ahead in the polls. The voting is yet to come. If he’s not ready for prime time it will come out. Just remember all Republicans have been pulled to the right thanks to the Tea party and I give Michelle Bachmann some credit for that.


86 posted on 09/18/2011 6:10:09 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Well obviously Perry is the next Reagan then.

Wow, guy hasn’t done much in the campaign and people sure are in the bag for him.


87 posted on 09/18/2011 6:13:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: lonestar

To see freepers minimizing the problem of illegal immigration and laughing about it, amazing.

I just can’t get over it.


88 posted on 09/18/2011 6:52:26 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: lonestar

“They are paying the same tuition other kids pay. “

Perry is giving illegals something he won’t give to American citizens from other states.


89 posted on 09/18/2011 7:28:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Well obviously Perry is the next Reagan then.

Have no idea where you got that from, simply said he did the same thing you trash Perry for. Actually if you look at results he did a lot worse on the immigration thing. >P<

Wow, guy hasn't’t done much in the campaign and people sure are in the bag for him.

You defeat your own argument, he's ahead of your pick so obviously some one likes him.

90 posted on 09/18/2011 7:46:10 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Perry is the ONE. He is our savior!!

or so you say


91 posted on 09/18/2011 7:49:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I just can’t get over it.

Get over it...it's none of your business...it does not reward nor encourage illegal immigration. I can't get over that you don't get it!

92 posted on 09/18/2011 8:15:33 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Public policy is none of my business?

Use of tax dollars isn’t any of my business?

Spoken like a true liberal, ‘just let the elites take care of it and don’t worry’.


93 posted on 09/18/2011 8:18:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Perry is the ONE. He is our savior!!

Well, I now know why you are a Bachmann fan not only have I not declared him as the ONE I even told you he had warts. Being confrontational just for the sake of confronting does nothing for your argument. Truth is, what you accuse me of with Perry you are ten times more with Bachmann. I'm sorry your choice isn't doing so well but it is a self inflicted wound and supporters like you only add to her problems.

94 posted on 09/18/2011 8:22:59 AM PDT by ontap
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To: driftdiver
Perry is giving illegals something he won’t give to American citizens from other states.

Well, duh!

Americans citizens from other states don't meet the criteria...that's why they pay out of state tuition.

When Americans citizens from other states are given scholarships to Texas colleges, they aren't required to pay out of pocket the difference between in state and out of state tuition. That doesn't bother me, either!

95 posted on 09/18/2011 8:22:59 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: driftdiver
Public policy in Texas is absolutely none of your business. I don't care about your public policy!

Public money is not being spent! If it were, it would be none of your business because it isn't your money!

Why can't you admit that?

You are wrong!!!!

You should get on to something that is your business because you have already admitted that you don't understand ours!

You are blinded by your agenda! I'm done with you...you are a waste of time!

96 posted on 09/18/2011 8:33:39 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: EDINVA
It's uncomfortable to discuss, but are you willing to mandate medical intervention over liberty? Force others to risk adverse reactions, to "eradicate disease", as if that were possible?

How many colonists and folks in the 1900's could've been saved if common fever-reducers were available then that are readily available today? Hygiene issues that existed back then that no longer exist today? You are willing to give all the credit to vaccinations?

Firearm rights activists often point to the number of doctor/hospital medical mistakes which lead to death (what, 100,000+ a year?); those numbers and credibility issues just disappear in the vaccine argument?

Medical science has done wonderful and amazing things, but it's not infalliable. People have to make judgment calls, for themselves and their families. The women who received the flu vaccine in the Philippines that was secretly laced with birth control (in a predominantly Catholic country where that is an anathema to their religious beliefs) by the WHO (and I think Bayer was the manufacturer, but fact check me on that). Does that not give one pause in the trust zone?

Just a few thoughts on a tough issue.

Finally, remember that Freedom is risky.

97 posted on 09/19/2011 6:05:09 AM PDT by elk
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To: elk

It IS a tough issue. Parents can choose to opt their kids out of vaccines. A friend’s grandchildren haven’t received the first inoculation, by their parents’ choice. So their liberties have not been taken away.

On the other hand, if those parents refused a vaccine from an air borne communicable disease for their children, the schools can and should deny them admission. I would submit that many diseases that we thought were history have made a resurgence because we have a new population that does not immunize their children who enter our schools. At that point, I don’t much care about their liberty. They made their choice, so let them educate their own kid(s) and keep them out of the classroom where my kids are sitting.

That doesn’t keep them out of the public forum, however, so they are subjecting me and mine to disease for no reason at all. Notice that supermarkets, hospitals, airports, etc (the public forum) now has antibiotic wipes at their entrances. Who’d have thought of such a thing even 10 years ago?

Now, as to sexually transmitted diseases, it is a somewhat different story. Except that kids today, many of them, are becoming sexually active at 12. By 15, even more so, and God only knows how many partners they’ve had. Multiply that out by all their partners’ partners, and you have some pretty serious numbers. By the time they graduate from high school they are ‘used up.’ It’s not just something that’s occurring in the barrio or ghetto, it’s common across the socio-economic spectrum. I’ve seen it up close and personal in what is frequently listed as the ‘richest’ county in the USA. It’s shocking and heartbreaking. Parents are too often kept in the dark, and are making decisions based on what they want to think their kids are (not) doing, not what’s actually happening.

Advances in medical science are the most astonishing phenomenon in my long life time. Not only the immunizations, but as you mentioned, fever reducers, open heart and other coronary surgeries, technology available for neonatal survival, and penicillin before them. Those are complemented by things like fitness, emphasis on healthy eating, lots of things. If these things, including immunizations, are available to us, I don’t know why anyone would choose not to take advantage of them. But if that’s their choice, I’d be the last to stop them.

We’ve actually had mandates in the past that were expressly for the purpose of protecting our liberty. I.e., the draft. That was good and mandatory in my day. And it sure as he!! had potentially adverse reactions for those drafted, at least as severe as adverse reactions to any immunization you’d want to name. Today, even that has an ‘opt out’ or rather ‘opt in.’ And, thankfully, many have chosen to opt in.


98 posted on 09/19/2011 7:14:20 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: EDINVA
FYI, live polio vaccine became THE source of modern polio infections. Let's just brush that under the rug.

What about the parents who lost children to intestinal blockage caused by the rotavirus vaccine, which was subsequently pulled from the market because of those deaths.

Fortunately, localities can make those decisions about who attends their schools; folks theoretically can move or homeschool to deal with the more draconian localities (at least now that homeschooling is legal in most places; 30 years ago, it wasn't).

While we are at it, let's ignore the importation of disease through illegal immigration. Before picking on the citizenry for making informed (or uniformed - again, freedom is risky) decisions, let's take the authorities to task for failing in their Constitutional duty to protect the borders, allowing pertussis, TB, and all manner of goodies, to rejoin the mix.

Makes for interesting discussion, for sure.

99 posted on 09/19/2011 8:25:08 AM PDT by elk
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To: elk

” ... we have a new population that does not immunize their children who enter our schools.”

Maybe that was too subtle.


100 posted on 09/19/2011 8:52:23 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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