[metmom]

I was thinking that Since God speaks and what HE says IS, that what we see is the nouns.

Again, it’s a matter sometimes of getting out of the Western mindset that the physical world we can see and touch is the whole of reality and has any validity.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Again, it’s a matter sometimes of getting out of the Western mindset that the physical world we can see and touch is the whole of reality and has any validity.

To make it more dizzying, stay aware that what we see and touch and those things with which we see and touch are simply space and energy on the subatomic level. Basically we are exchanging energy with our environment. That is the same energy that binds it all together - God.

To me, that indicates a divine system and grand plan. Or Universal Illusion.

[YHAOS]

“Again, it’s a matter sometimes of getting out of the Western mindset that the physical world we can see and touch is the whole of reality and has any validity.”

Please forgive the intrusion, metmom, but I must protest that the idea that “the whole of reality” is the physical world we can see and touch represents the Western mindset. This idea is, rather, its very antithesis, as witness Anselm (whom our friend boop has been discussing just recently), Thomas Aquinas, John Milton, and Isaac Newton.

Materialism is not a Western concept. It is a foreign concept. It is the mindset of secularists, who would have us accept the canard that to control us, all they need do is control our backsides.