Posted on 08/26/2011 6:27:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
this guy’s just jealous of the osteen family’s success.
Cheers!
If you pray hard enough you’ll get money.
If you’re faithful cha-ching!
Good people become rich, poor people must be poor because they’re bad.
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Something is seriously wrong with lots of modern churches and it’s spreading.
If you pray hard enough you’ll get money.
If you’re faithful cha-ching!
Good people become rich, poor people must be poor because they’re bad.
...
Something is seriously wrong with lots of modern churches and it’s spreading.
If you pray hard enough you’ll get money.
If you’re faithful cha-ching!
Good people become rich, poor people must be poor because they’re bad.
...
Something is seriously wrong with lots of modern churches and it’s spreading.
Apostates all. Jesus will say to them. “Depart from me, I never knew you”.
Thank you Steelfish for this post. It’s spot on and exposes a popular, deceptive and seductive counterfeit of true faith in Christ.
I passed through the “Word of Faith” movement with some of its top leaders in the late 60’s, but departed quickly when I saw the true message - where self is the center, not God, and a crossless Christ is preached.
It is tragically sad that almost nowhere do you see the true gospel today: both denominations and sects like this one are focused on building their kingdoms where man and the flesh are exalted, and the crucified life rejected.
How few are the David Wilkerson’s, John Piper’s, Paul Washer’s. Just as the multitudes followed Jesus in his early ministry when he was popular, but left him when he rejected being their earthly king - it was the same ones who only a few days after shouting, “Hosanna, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!”, changed their shout to “Crucify Him!”
I applaud all who would expose the deceit behind sects like this who base their success on mixing truth with lies....
John the Baptist had it right on when he said, “May He increase, and may I decrease....” even though he didn’t know how quickly and tragically his prayer would be answered with his beheading.
Would to God that we all had a heart to pray the same prayer that John the Baptist did.......
hucksters.
If this works, why aren’t they preaching it in the world’s poorest countries? Why just affluent areas?
For those in the ministry: send me a private message, and I’ll share with you what I believe to be a major source (or origin) of Joel Osteen and other WoF teachers error - the crack in the door that opened them to being deceived.
For over 20 years I apprenticed under/beside one of Watchman Nee’s closest co-workers, now in his mid-nineties - still ministering “Christ Jesus and Him crucified” - one of the most humble and selfless men I have ever known, and I’ve been with a significant number of the big-name Christian leaders over the last 40 years.
I’d love to share just a few key things I learned from him - and saw demonstrated and lived in his Godly life....
Sadly, it does appeal to the poor. It’s highly popular both in the poor black community in the US and in Africa.......
It gives false hope in a false gospel...
In a perfect world, the current crop of televangelists from Rev. Schuller to Billy Graham and Joel Osteen and the pompous Crouch’s followed by some Black “Bishops” would all be rounded up and thrown into jail.
Well-known personalities within the movement include Kenneth Hagin (deceased)
Dead? < sarc>Unpossible! He must not have had enough faith!< /sarc>. Amazing, how the results of sin and the fall still hold sway.
My wife was involved with a Word-Faith church for a while, headed over by one of C. Peter Wagner's motley crew of wannabe apostles. She tells me such stories....
Some have estimated that up to 90 percent of those claiming to be Christians in Africa are of the prosperity gospel variety.
Carefully worded.
Osteen, without qualification, declares that all of us are destined for greatness of every kind: “You were born to win; you were born for greatness, you were created to be a champion in life”
"So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. "
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.”
John 15:18
“In this world you will have trouble.”
-John 16:33
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Matthew 10:34
I wonder how this scam artist Joel Osteen explains the wealth of mega rich gays in Hollywood? or for that matter Hugh Hefner?
Much of occultism has crept into what passes for Christianity in America. You strike a good bargain with God and you will be magically given whatever you want. Buy this book to learn secret knowledge that you can use to manipulate God so he will be your personal genie. Use these magic words to create your own reality! This is worse than rubbish - it is satanic occultism thinly disguised as Christianity.
I’d agree with all except Billy Graham who never used his ministry to pad his pockets or exalt himself.
Thank you for exposing these fraudsters, misleading good hearted people to a false religion.
These prosperity gospel types are a curse
BG isn’t like the rest for sure. But this has provided him and his family a very nice lifestyle. These “preachers’ are not theologians or for that matter versed in the techniques of scriptural interpretation. Each one of them is a “church” unto itself. They use literal text much as a seventh grader would do and attract an assortment of fools no different than what Jim Jones and David Koresh drew.
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