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For those of you who have never been in combat, it is easy to second-guess the leadership on why he was not removed.

Your little story does not mean a damn thing. No one here is arguing that the guy was not really screwing up. No one here (that I have seen) is arguing that sleeping on duty in a combat zone is no big deal. All this 'you ain't been there man' macho posturing from former infantry types is just so much hog wash. We don't have to be there to know that this stuff is serious. AND we don't have to be there to know that his CO should have seen what was going on and gotten him out of there. If your guys are shooting eating their muzzle for ANY reason you as the commanding officer are in some way responsible.

I get really sick of all this 'you ain't been there, you don't know' garbage. Don't know what? That it is serious business? We all know that. That you have to trust your buddies with your life every minute of every day? We all know that. That your buddy damn well better step up and be worthy of that trust he is in for a world of hurt? Yeah we all know that too. What we don't know and don't agree with is that torturing and guilting him into shooting himself was better than just giving him an dishonorable discharge or a quite transfer. No one is arguing that he should have been coddled. All this 'you ain't been there' stuff is just insulting. Buncha darn Jack Nicholson wanabes.

“Buncha darn Jack Nicholson wanabes.”

Pretty ignorant comment to those who actually served in an Infantry or Combat Arms unit. Especially to those who served in combat.

Col Vit’s real life example has everything to do with it. Three Marine snipers were killed in their sleep. It illustrates the extreme reality of the situation.

You don’t find that in the fantasyland of the range, Talon.