To: steveo
“Certainly not the Marines fault. “
Not the marines fault that he fell asleep? Thereby risking the lives of his fellow marines? BS
The discipline was handled poorly but falling asleep in these conditions is a very serious matter.
17 posted on
08/23/2011 5:26:38 PM PDT by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: driftdiver
So, you're in a combat situation and everybody but you is allowed to sleep ~ NOT!
Don't be silly. This guy is at a particular position and he's on alert and other folks are wandering about checking on him and others ~ so it's not like a whole platoon, or company, or battalion, or brigade, or division, or Army GROUP is at risk if he nods off.
It's mostly his butt that's at risk, and his buddy's butt too.
The potential for damage is limited through application of normal doctrines.
What I don't understand in this one is that someone thought using the techniques one might use to break a slave would improve self-discipline. Today it's recognized this sort of thing induces some pretty serious depression. I really doubt the guys doing this were taught in the military how this can be done.
28 posted on
08/23/2011 5:38:45 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: driftdiver
Again why was this news now?
Anyone should know the discipline required to serve. If he couldn't handle it there are ways out. He was the one that chose to kill himself. No one else.
35 posted on
08/23/2011 5:43:55 PM PDT by
steveo
(PETO-VT-IN-MARI-SVB-CRVCE-AVSTRALI-SEPELIAR)
To: driftdiver
The discipline was handled poorly but falling asleep in these conditions is a very serious matter.
I'm no military man but to this layman it seems the discipline was handled atrociously. If this kid was endangering fellow soldiers by being a lazy idiot or unable to fulfill his duties due to sleep apnea, he should have been sent home and discharged from the service. I have trouble seeing how getting assaulted by fellow Marines and repeatedly humiliated by his sergeant were expected to fix the problem in any way. Condolences to the kid's family and friends - what a senseless waste of a young life.
To: driftdiver
The discipline was handled poorly but falling asleep in these conditions is a very serious matter. Excellent analysis. In WWII, you could be shot for sleeping at your post ...
103 posted on
08/23/2011 6:55:44 PM PDT by
Lmo56
(If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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