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To: SunkenCiv
Pitchers do NOT deserve MVP consideration. That's why they have the Cy Young award.

Today, a pitcher has between 30-40 starts, and often times not more than 6-7 innings per game. A starter will play from 155-162 games each season, nine innings as game, and often extra innings.

There is NO comparison.

2 posted on 08/23/2011 4:46:14 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: ken5050

Verlander leads the majors in innings pitched this year (besides being 19-5, even before the end of August). He alone is the difference between the Tigers being five games up in their division and being a losing ballclub.


8 posted on 08/23/2011 4:57:48 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lifelong baseball fan)
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To: ken5050
Pitchers do NOT deserve MVP consideration. That's why they have the Cy Young award. Today, a pitcher has between 30-40 starts, and often times not more than 6-7 innings per game. A starter will play from 155-162 games each season, nine innings as game, and often extra innings.

There is NO comparison.

BALONEY!!!

A good starting pitcher is involved in way more action than any hitter! The great ones face 800-1000 batters per year. No hitter gets up much more than 600 times.

Take Gonzales or Ellsbury from the Bosox, they're still in it. Take Verlander or Sabathia away, and the Tigers and Yankees suck. IMHO, the REAL MVP is often a pitcher.

22 posted on 08/23/2011 6:01:14 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: ken5050
There is NO comparison.

Most good starting pitchers a invoved in far more defensive plays, over the course of the season, than any other player than the catcher.

Think about it. The reason he is not an everyday players isn't because of lack of talent, but because his arm takes such a beating when he does play.

30 posted on 08/23/2011 6:32:59 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: ken5050
There is NO comparison.

Most good starting pitchers a invoved in far more defensive plays, over the course of the season, than any other player than the catcher.

Think about it. The reason he is not an everyday players isn't because of lack of talent, but because his arm takes such a beating when he does play.

31 posted on 08/23/2011 6:33:15 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: ken5050
They should just officially make the MVP a non-pitcher award to avoid the annoying debate. CY is for pitchers. MVP is for position player. Fireman's Award for closer. End of story.

That said, Verlander is going to get the CY, and deserves it. MVP is a tougher call.

38 posted on 08/23/2011 8:29:12 PM PDT by Huck (I don't believe there is just one God--humanity seems like the work of a committee to me.)
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