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Family could miss out on $50,000 prize after father confesses wrong twin made 'miracle' hockey shot
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 3:40 AM on 16th August 2011

Posted on 08/15/2011 11:08:59 PM PDT by rawhide

An 11-year-old boy who won $50,000 for a miracle hockey shot may lose the prize because he switched with his twin before going on the ice.

Nate Smith stunned a crowd in Faribault, Minnesota, Thursday night when he fired a puck 89 feet down the rink into a tiny three-and-a-half-inch goal.

His dad had paid $10 for a raffle ticket that would give the winner a shot at the $50,000 jackpot.

The only problem was that it was Nate’s brother's name, Nick, on the ticket.

Nick had just gone outside when his ticket was drawn so Nate stepped up to try his luck.

But the boys’ dad, Pat Smith, came forward the next day to tell organizers the son whose name was on the ticket was not the one that made the shot.

Mr Smith said: 'I called back and said it was really Nate who made the shot.

'We thought honesty was the best policy, and we wanted to set a good example for our kids,' he explained.

Now, the ownership of the prize money is up to the insurance carrier that covered the shot.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: hockey; puck
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To: rawhide
Some of you guys have a warped sense of what comprises cheating. The kid didn't cheat. He made the shot honestly, he didn't use a trick to make the shot, he made it fair and square. The father paid 10 bucks for a try at 50,000, I am sure it didn't matter which son's name he put on the ticket because they probably have equal ability. If they don't why would he put the son with lesser ability on the ticket?

What would he gain by putting one son's name on the ticket and then letting the other son shoot?

To say this is fraud is simply BS and the people who are getting all indignant about it are full of it.

This was not a "planned switch", it just happened. BTW, the way the article reads daddy didn't know at the time that Nate went in for Nick.

This whole thing is just an excuse for the insurance company not to pay out the $50,000. Insurance companies are all the fickin' same, they will go to great lengths not to pay up.

I will bet they don't pay, not because this was fraud(it wasn't)but because they will use any excuse not to pay out.

21 posted on 08/16/2011 3:55:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

You’ve got it right; you said it well.

Anyone could buy a ticket and take the shot... even a pro. Interpreting the ticket as a family ticket, with identical twins to boot, is certainly reasonable.


22 posted on 08/16/2011 4:04:53 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rawhide

At many minor league ball games in the USA, the “randomly” chosen fans are part of large group sales. When you place the order for a large group sale, the group sales ticket agent will ask you which promotion you want to be a part of — “Best Seat In The House” (a soft couch in the stands) — and what do you know, in the first inning someone from your group will be called to sit in the Best Seat In The House. It’s been a while since I’ve been to a game I don’t remember what all the other ones are - if there’s a child in your group and you request it the child can run the bases with the mascot - the child always wins of course.
Maybe since it was a raffle, the drawing wasn’t rigged.


23 posted on 08/16/2011 5:00:50 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: rawhide

They are kids. This wasn’t some elaborate scheme to scam a charity out of $50K. The father presumably purchased the tickets for each kid and himself for the “chance” to make a once in a lifetime shot, rewarded with a $50K prize. So could some deranged lawyer reasonably claim that the father should be the one to take the shot no matter what name is on the ticket?

The only fact that should matter is that they called somebody out onto the ice betting that person could not shoot a 3” diameter puck into a 3-1/2” hole from 90 feet away and they lost the bet. Pay up, sucker.


24 posted on 08/16/2011 5:28:01 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: rawhide

Organizers should have required state authorized photo ID....with thumb print!


25 posted on 08/16/2011 5:45:42 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Agreed. FR is becoming overrun with some real self righteous turds.

“Those damn cheaters, throw the whole family in jail”.

26 posted on 08/16/2011 5:52:36 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: scrabblehack
My high school alma mater's band saw the “Best Seat In The House” promotion somewhere and thought it would be a good idea to raise funds. They were so proud of it that they mentioned they were going to do it to the football team's booster club, who then promptly stole the idea. Hard to argue with a football team who went to the state finals last year and are picked to take it all this season.
27 posted on 08/16/2011 10:56:55 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: MaxMax

And if the Father say’s he didn’t know, lock him up for fraud!
Oh for petes sake, go join the Taliban!!


28 posted on 08/16/2011 11:01:20 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: okkev68

LOL..but let the banksters roam free. Go figure.


29 posted on 08/16/2011 11:59:18 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Pontiac
Maybe I'm just having a blonde moment, but isn't the entire point of a raffle to take in more than you award so that you make money while also being able to pay out the prize money?

Why is insurance even involved?

30 posted on 08/16/2011 3:57:55 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: eastforker
Yea maybe a little harsh but I find it difficult to believe the father didn't
know which son was which.

Btw, are those pics of Ops from the Trinity river? I used to set lines
out all the time on Livingston where the river ran through the lake.
I always had to throw back more than I kept.

/Salute

31 posted on 08/16/2011 5:27:28 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: MacMattico

It is not terribly complicated.

They set up the contest so that it was unlikely that there would be a winner of the prize money.

Think about the “tiny three-and-a-half-inch goal” the boy was shooting at from 89 feet away (pretty much from center ice to the goal). The goal was maybe an inch larger than the puck, a nearly impossible shot.

Like I said this was a charity event what the kid really won was a chance to shoot at the goal in front of a crowd. The intent was that there would not be a winner the insurance company was there in case some one did manage to make the shot and a pay out needed to be made.


32 posted on 08/16/2011 7:22:48 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
Maybe the problem is with the word raffle. Where I live raffles are subject to certain rules and laws because money is involved, and there has to be a winner. No insurance company is needed because the raffle in effect pays for itself and makes a profit for the group. If the group sponsoring the raffle doesn't sell enough tickets they need to come up with the prize amount difference or they are breaking the law.

Shooting a hockey puck into a small opening or taking a 3 point shot at the basketball game is not considered a raffle because no money is exchanged they just randomly pick someone and give them a chance to win some cash or prizes. I guess it could have been a raffle to win the chance to take the shot, but was it specified you couldn't give your winning ticket to someone else? Here, people give winning raffle tickets away all the time-- to the organization holding the raffle as another donation, to their church, or whomever.

33 posted on 08/16/2011 9:01:32 PM PDT by MacMattico
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