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Missouri: Still Making Them Illiterate After All These Years
August 15, 2011 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 08/15/2011 3:49:34 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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1 posted on 08/15/2011 3:49:42 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

A nine-year-old boy, unable to read; showed up for remedial help. Pointing at “bead,” the tutor explained, “When two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking.” The puzzled third-grader looked up and asked: “What’s a vowel?”

He probably meant “what do a vowel be?”


2 posted on 08/15/2011 3:52:21 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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“When two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking.”

That rule works for "bead", but not for "chief" or "brief" or even "Shiite."

3 posted on 08/15/2011 3:53:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: metmom; wintertime; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

The public schools have never been bastions of educational excellence. Americans were complaining about them from their first day. Obviously, they’re getting worse. In my own case, I was helped by shows like Sesame Street, Zoom, and The Electric Company, as well as my mother teaching me to read. If not for them, I can’t imagine how little I’d know.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 3:56:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

What, in Heaven’s name, is a “Dolch” word?

We need more schools like this one:

http://www.ridgeviewclassical.com/


5 posted on 08/15/2011 3:57:35 PM PDT by goldi (')
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6 posted on 08/15/2011 4:01:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
Around 1950 top educators were quite candid about their goals.

Socialist revolution first (through the minds of the children) - academics later.

This is why the children coming out of the government schools are ignorant and more like untamed animals than humans. No morals, no ethics, no reason, no laws.

7 posted on 08/15/2011 4:02:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

There are always exceptions to the spelling/phonics rules and good teachers point that out. This is no reason to throw out the entire system as they did starting in the 60’s.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 4:11:25 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: goldi

Look-say, Sight Words, Whole Word, Whole Language, Dolch words, and others —all mean the same thing.

The Education Establishment constantly invented new marketing terms for their favorite gimmick, so parents would be too confused to resist.

You can Google “sight words” or “dolch words” and find hundreds of websites that are promoting the same lists of words that kids are supposed to memorize.

(Edward Dolch was an educator.)


9 posted on 08/15/2011 4:16:21 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: goldi

Look-say, Sight Words, Whole Word, Whole Language, Dolch words, and others —all mean essentially the same thing.

The Education Establishment constantly invented new marketing terms for their favorite gimmick, so parents would be too confused to resist.

You can Google “sight words” or “dolch words” and find hundreds of websites that are promoting the same lists of words that kids are supposed to memorize.

(Edward Dolch was an educator.)


10 posted on 08/15/2011 4:17:01 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

“What are these officials afraid of, that American children might actually become literate? “

Honestly, yes.


11 posted on 08/15/2011 4:21:00 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: FrdmLvr
There are always exceptions to the spelling/phonics rules and good teachers point that out.

I agree--I'm a big phonics fan. I don't remember the stated rule of the leading vowel running the show from my learning days, tho.

12 posted on 08/15/2011 4:23:56 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Back in the 70s, my wife and I went to our daughter’s 9th grade open house at her junior high school. Mr. So-and-so gave all the parents the courtesy of showing up wearing a hunting shirt, jeans, and barefoot except for sandals . . . also unshaven. This slob (that’s exactly what I though he looked like), who was on the taxpayers’ payroll, looked like a he had no respect at all for his job or his students’ parents.

He passed out a 4-page handout to the parents. After a brief review of the handout, I found eight (8) grammar errors. I was furious. I teach English and math at a private school for far less pay and benefits than this ba$tard gets. My wife told me not to bring these errors to Mr. Slob’s attention, or he’d take it out on my daughter. So, I sat there just steaming.

When Mr. Hippie told us about their journals that they had to write and turn in each week (my opinions of journals could be the subject of another post). I asked him if he checked them for grammar and spelling errors before he turned them back to the students. “No,” said Mr. Jackass, “I don’t want to hurt their self-esteem.”

I could have screamed, but my wife was right . . . he’d probably single out my daughter (who, by the way was a straight A student). So I remained mute. To this day, I wish I’d have gone after this high-paid ba$tard who showed up looking like he’d just changed a tire.

And we wonder what’s going wrong with our screw-el systems.


13 posted on 08/15/2011 4:40:20 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Sight words, whole words, Dolch words, all lead to the utter paucity of the American vocabulary.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 4:43:12 PM PDT by Qout
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Why should students memorize lists of words when they can easily sound out words phonetically?

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill, and it’s so dishonest, too. I imagine schools can drag out reading instruction for years.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 4:52:03 PM PDT by goldi (')
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“Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill, and it’s so dishonest, too. I imagine schools can drag out reading instruction for years.”

EXACTLY.


16 posted on 08/15/2011 5:03:50 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA

Vowel ? Silly foo. Dat’s where your poo go thru.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

I learned to read whole words at four and a half. “look” and “see” were the first words.I learned, in a Dick.& Jane book. It was smooth sailing from there. Any kid who gets to third grade and doesn’t know what a vowel is has illiterate parents, not just a bad school.


18 posted on 08/15/2011 5:38:02 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

¿que?


19 posted on 08/15/2011 6:23:00 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
"Missouri: Still Making Them Illiterate After All These Years."

"A reading coach in Missouri told me a revealing story."

"[A] puzzled third-grader looked up and asked: 'What’s a vowel?' "

Bruce, suggest that next time you name the school, its location, and its principal.

There is no reason to politely and respectfully keep them anonymous.

If you shame them publicly, then they will change. The media will force them to.

20 posted on 08/15/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by tom h
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