Posted on 08/15/2011 7:38:31 AM PDT by kdun
Thanks!
In Perry’s own words he said he supports Mexico’s president Fox’s position on open US borders.
That my FRiend does it for me, F Perry he is just another New World order democrat, I mean republican. And his sycophants coming on here pronouncing his victory the day he announces is laughable at best.
He is GWB II big time. And we all know Bush mislead conservatives until he got our money and our votes then we saw who he really is, a RINO.
“The pledge in Spanish? That’s called pandering.....”
Maybe, if its not clear how or why it’s being offered, but
there’s one way of looking at it that looks like a very sharp move: it’s a direct invitation to Pledge Allegiance
to THIS country and its interests above all others, and all other “causes”, like La Raza’s, that might shake up the still- growing constituency of Hispanics and make them realize that they haven’t really gotten very far with Obama at the helm. But only when it becomes clear what Perry’s overall plan is and how it will benefit them to dial back the alienation will this make sense to them. How many candidates have EVER proposed this idea of allegiance, RATHER than merely suggesting that they’ll get what they want as a special-interest group?
I like Bachmann. I just don't think that she'll make it out of the primaries. She's honest, and frankly, most people just don't want to know what the truth is.
And I agree with the author on Palin. I like her, too, but I think that she's doing better as a lightning rod. I hate the hatchet job that the MSM did on her back in 2008, but I recognize that it made her unelectable to a national office any time soon. She (and her family) would do better with staying the heck off reality TV - and - Palin serving as a cabinet member somewhere in the 2012 winner's administration and building back up her credentials. That is, IF she wants to hold the top spot one day.
Cain wasn't metioned. Of all the candidates, I think that he's likely the best and probably the most qualified. So, that means that he'll get the boot early in the promaries. :-) Much like Pawlenty. Good credentials, just not charismatic enough to be prez.
As much as the Paulistas on the forum will flame me, the rest of the pack are a bunch of 3rd raters.
So, that leaves Perry and Romney. Either are slick and good-looking enough to be electable. I don't trust Romney. Anyone who is liberal enough to get elected in MA as a Republican makes me pretty nervous. Doubt I'm alone on that opinion.
Allow me to “bless” your assertion that voter fraud doesn’t stand a chance. My, how I hope that you’re right.
Perry is a Moderate at best. He is all talk. He just wants to be president. He will not do what we all think needs to be done. Why then would I ever want him to be president? Palin is no GOD but she will IMHO try to get the job done with re-election not in mind. I just don’t get this Perry love because the press has tried to “pick us a conservative”.
Palin’s position on amnesty and controlling our borders has always been a problem for me. She appears to be avoiding the issue in order to mislead voters. I like her and will vote for the republican regardless, but Sarah needs to be more forthcoming concerning illegal immigration and what to do with those who are here now.
And, the whole thing is a wholesome process working the way it is designed to work.
The Conservatives present and assess candidates, openly debating and challenging one another keeping the process honest ...it is all transparent.
I have no complaint to make about any of this.
The Liberal approach on the other hand???.... not so much.
PS- I CANNOT figure Paul. That guy opens his mouth and after about one minute I wonder what the he^% he is on. He's WAY too extreme and just the kind of Conservative who gives all the rest a bad name. He becomes hysterical and illogical in a heartbeat. There is some kind of unhinged quality to him that is creepy!
Yet another ‘concern troll’
So you’re going to vote for Hussein Obama? Or stay home, or vote 3rd party, which is just as good as a vote for Obama. Grow up. No candidate is going to be perfect. Not even the great Ronald Reagan, the gold standard by which all others are measured, was perfect. Rick Perry would make a fine president, and will be billions of times better than the Kenyan Muslim Marxist.
Not with my vote.
Yes, and Obama is sooooo much better on illegal immigration...........Your non-vote for Perry (should he be the nominee) is a vote for Obama. Pure and simple.
I’d have to say Bachmann, Cain or Santorum are the best bet for actually cutting the size of government by 1/2. They are the only ones in the field who might - might - go against the wishes of big-business lobbyists at all or even in the least way.
Other than that, deficits will continue, the bubble of government spending will grow.
It can’t continue growing at this pace much longer.
IMHO, the only reason why radicals - and I include those inside government and business, like say, a Paul Krugman, as well as rioters - do not want to collapse our economy now is because it would happen on Obama’s watch. They merely want to keep growing the debt pile.
In the same way a nation employs a “scorched-earth” policy of retreat during a war, left-wingers want to leave record numbers of government employees and dependents when Obama leaves office, and the government borrowing 50% or more of it’s spending. In essence, they want to hand off a U.S. Feral government that is exactly at the tipping point of collapse to the next President in January 2013.
How will an establishment Republican like Romney or Perry respond in that situation ? By making deals. Puddy in the hands of lobbyists, whether from the left or the right.
With government debt collapse teetering on a knife edge, they would open the floodgates and give everything and anything to everyone as long as everyone continues to put on a nice face and carry on, somehow, even in the face of crippling inflation. If they don’t have an inherent wisdom in business and ecnomic principles and don’t have the spine to stick to them, they’ll attempt price controls a la Nixon.
It’s difficult to predict when and how the Treasury debt bubble will actually burst. One must keep in mind that the very notion of $15 trillion owed by a government that takes in $2 trillion in total per year is nonsensical from a perspective of creditworthiness. So the entire planet earth, save a few sane people, are willfully or unknowingly ignorant of the whole situation or are whistling past the graveyard.
We absolutely must trend towards growing small business and in various key parts of our economy.
Those in the capital markets world simply are blind.
If only a few would finance a few simple ideas.
I highly recommend, again, the following read:
Popular Science Sep 1897
Search and find it. You’ll find the first page:
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APPLETONS’
POPULAR SCIENCE MONTHLY
September, 1897
SPANISH EXPERIMENTS IN COINAGE.
By Henry Charles Lea.
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Read on, you’ll find the horrific inflation problems of the Spanish Empire over decades.
They did not produce manufactured items, they exported raw materials: wool, flax, hemp, silk, iron, steel, timber and wine. All exported as raw materials. And they minted coins by the boatload, and they devalued their coins as they needed more and more of them. And the more they needed, the more they devalued and that made them need even more.
Can you explain to me how “a return to traditional values” will happen by virtue of ELECTING A PRESIDENT who seems to embrace and be guided by those values? Just what mechanisms will be put in place to suddenly, or even gradually, return us to those values? Will the net effect or result just be a vague “feeling” that we now all share “traditional values”?
And what advantage would someone like Perry have over someone like Palin, since you seem to think he would?
It’s interesting to note as you did, that Palin has some support among groups and individuals who DON’T perceive her as maybe a little “scary”, like they might perceive Perry, let alone Bachmann, who is quicker to flash the sleeve on which she wears her social conservativism. Palin seems a bit more “worldly” than either of them, even if her record as Governor couldn’t be exploited to her advantage as easily as Perry’s. I knew it would take time, but Palin has managed to keep showing up, standing up, popping back up with good humor and resilience every time she’s been pushed and kicked-—the perception of her has changed just as I knew it would.Now it’s the wild-eyed Bachmann, as depicted on the Newsweek cover, who’s promoted as the “crazy” and “scary” one.
I agree.
This thing hasn't even really gotten started yet.
It's far too early to be calling an election that won't take place for almost fifteen months.
Speaking of people I won’t be supporting or voting for......
We do not need a RINO, moderate like Perry. That is GWB number II.
Perry if he becomes President, will destroy the Republican Party.
I am not for Obama, I just don’t want a loser on Illegal Immigration like Perry, to be our President.
Bachmann is better, maybe Palin. We will have to wait and see.
It is not Perry vs. Obama right. You are gettting ahead of yourself
Once again, in the Ames, Iowa debate last night (8/11), he exposed himself as a Blame America Firster who has no desire whatever to defend our national security.
He's done this with complete consistency in Congress, never once voting for a single defense authorization bill. But last night, he went total wacko. Not only did he blame the US for Iran being a state sponsor of terrorism, not only did he excuse Iran's quest for nuclear weapons, he actually wants Iran to have nukes. It's "natural" for the mullahs to have nukes, and "what's so terribly bad about this?"
I've gotten a number of pro-Paul TTPers mad at me for saying this before, but this seals the deal that he has a Hate America foreign policy as bad as Noam Chomsky's. At least in Ames it's out on full undeniable display. And by defending Mullah nukes, it also shows he's a Hate Israel Anti-Semite. No wonder he was booed.
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