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Microsoft disregards Linux as threat. Big mistake.
IT World ^ | 12 August 2011 | Brian Proffitt

Posted on 08/15/2011 6:06:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: ShadowAce
You actually think that visiting CeBit each year trumps actual on-site work and conversation?
Well, the reason I visit the CeBIT each year is, of course, that I work in the field, too ;-) Visiting CeBIT is for getting an impression of the big picture, and new developments. And selling stuff.
Research, analysis, and crunching numbers.
Well, ok, if clusters for number crunching is all we’re talking about, then yes: It is well known that Linux clusters are the best. But the percentage of companies whose business revolves around a big cluster computer, or who even own one, is rather small I would say. Most companies biggest servers are their databases and/or document management systems. I would call those “servers,” not “desktop extensions.” The opposite of “client” is still “server,” not “cluster.” ;-) The software I personally develop typically runs in production environments on a park of dozens of Windows Server installations. Although it is a distributed system, it certainly isn’t a “cluster,” either.
81 posted on 08/15/2011 9:20:20 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Lazamataz
Linux is a hobbyist platform for script kiddies and wannabees. It is not a serious operating system.

Last June, I pulled out an old desktop and experimented with a number of these Linux distros -- Fedora, Ubuntu, Linux Mint. I finally decided upon PCLinuxOS.

I am no computer geek by any means (I don't even know how to write a script), and yet I have not turned on my XP machine for over seven weeks -- *except* for when I wanted to sync my IPOD or use Quicken.

82 posted on 08/15/2011 9:23:47 AM PDT by kevao
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To: cartan
The opposite of “client” is still “server,” not “cluster.” ;-)

OK--I can give ya that one. :)

I guess we're coming at this from two different viewpoints. With my background in clustering, I tend to view servers as something other than a dedicated Office appliance.

Heck, I've built dynamically heterogeneous clusters--where the head node determines whether a particular server needs to run windows or linux for a particular job, and reinstalls the OS on the fly. I'm just not used to thinking about servers when they are in the office environment.

83 posted on 08/15/2011 9:28:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
I agree—we all live in our own little part of the world, and tend to over-extrapolate from it :-)
84 posted on 08/15/2011 9:54:26 AM PDT by cartan
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To: ShadowAce; for-q-clinton
I don't believe that yet because too many people want a larger screen than your phone will/can provide.

You said "yet"... I would say "ever". Bookkeeping, spreadsheets, project management, graphics/video editing, programming, serious authorship - All of these require more real estate than a device can offer, or will ever offer, at least in the current form factors. For all the hype, most folks are still using handhelds as a glorified PIM (and that's really all it is). Folks seem to forget that computers do more than browsing the internet, e-mail, and appointments...

As far as tablets, we'll have to wait and see. They're still a niche product.

True. but without a real KB, same as any other handheld - 'Tablet' used to be a laptop with a turn-around, touch capable monitor - and even those have been unsuccessful, even with the capability of transforming into a laptop. So why would a tablet without that capability do better?

I think the device with legs is the netbook. Too small to be comfortable on, to be sure, but capable of doing anything a laptop can do. My tablet is awkward to handle, and too big to store easily on my person. I much prefer the netbook as a portable device - the clam shell design not only protects it, but makes it smaller for storage, and easier to handle in operation (just hook a thumb in the corner for a good grasp). And it has a KEYBOARD.

85 posted on 08/15/2011 11:08:34 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Lazamataz
Besides, Linux ends with the letter X. The letter X denotes porn.

Laz ends with 'z' and zero, a common reference to um, Zero, starts with 'z'. Ergo, you're Zero. ;-) Sorry, that was hitting below the belt but you're cracking me up and I had to say something!

86 posted on 08/15/2011 11:35:04 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: ShadowAce

don’t dispute that.

the bottom line is that linux is a very minor player in the desktop market for the end user.

the computer joe schmoe buys in the store has windows, perhaps a apple os if they go to an apple store. There is no “linux department”


87 posted on 08/15/2011 12:07:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cartan; ShadowAce
I agree—we all live in our own little part of the world, and tend to over-extrapolate from it :-)

Hey, did you know that absolutely everyone who develops, uses C#.NET against a SQL back end?

There are no exceptions.

88 posted on 08/15/2011 12:11:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Lazamataz

Quite a few people SQL when they C # back end.


89 posted on 08/15/2011 12:13:56 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Quite a few people SQL when they C # back end.

No, not even one.

Haven't you been logically bested enough today???

90 posted on 08/15/2011 12:16:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Lazamataz
Logically bested? Hah!

Several people have already noticed you fell into my well-laid trap equating you with Linux through your name.

91 posted on 08/15/2011 12:22:20 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Lazamataz

I just got burned with the .NET Oracle driver, we used in our C# ASP.NET apps. Turns out, the .NET Oracle driver, automatically turned the user id and passwords into Upper Case when passing them to Oracle, since in earlier versions of Oracle, they were case-insensitive. Well they upgraded to Oracle 11, which does make user ids and passwords case sensitive, and suddenly everything broke.


92 posted on 08/15/2011 12:22:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

YIKES! Can you just use a generic ODBC driver? That would give you the password casing you need. Of course it would be slower, being ODBC, you couldn’t count on the Oracle optimization..... Or are you locked into some of the Oracle functionality in your current driver?


93 posted on 08/15/2011 12:31:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: ShadowAce

Well played. I have lost the entire argument. I bow to the master.


94 posted on 08/15/2011 12:32:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Lazamataz

We’re pretty much locked in. We got it working eventually, but it was kind of a pain because the drivers are part of the Assembly, and you have to deal with the GAC, and all that wonderful stuff.


95 posted on 08/15/2011 12:35:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

GAC’s not too bad if you work with it enough. What was the solution? Did I see something about a flag allowing upper/lower passwords, or did they send out an update, or... what was your solution?


96 posted on 08/15/2011 12:38:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Lazamataz
Hey, did you know that absolutely everyone who develops, uses C#.NET against a SQL back end?
I would hit it!
97 posted on 08/15/2011 1:57:16 PM PDT by cartan
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To: Moonman62
Linux livecds make great rescue disks. Other than that it is nothing but beta software that will take many hours of frustration to tweak just right. Even then there’s still going to be numerous bugs.

It all depends on what you're using a computer for. I have a laptop that is only used for browsing and some gaming. Fifteen minutes from inserting the disk to begin installation of PCLInuxOS to the desktop. Now if you're using the computer for windows based software, yeah. you might take hours.

98 posted on 08/15/2011 2:40:13 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: Lazamataz
Yes, but can you make three cases of clap fun?
99 posted on 08/16/2011 5:15:50 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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