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To: sometime lurker
The quote was a reply to #10: At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution, the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis. This opinion is contradicted as the Father of the Constitution obviously felt that Jus Soli was the more important, and said so.

Yes, James Madison's offhand comment trumps all the delegates and Legislatures of the 13 states combined. He was dictator you know.

Slaves and Indians put the lie to your theory.

132 posted on 08/10/2011 8:58:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Abortion is Murder and Democrats are Stupid and/or Evil.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
They are simply trying to sidetrack you and everyone else reading this. To confuse the issue. See my comment above.

Madison's statement, and the context of that debate, have nothing...not a single thing to do with "natural born Citizens."

Mr. Smith was, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution,"

because he was born in South Carolina prior to the Constitution (actually, prior to the revolution)...but had traveled to Great Britain and other parts of Europe. So his allegiance to the U.S. came into question...as did weather or not he meet the 7 years residency requirement for eligibility to the House of Representatives.

Madison states that William Smith's allegiance should not be questioned, simply because he was in Europe for some time....because Mr. Smith never renounced his citizenship (gained after the Declaration of Independence) and was born in South Carolina.

Their use of that quote regarding the issue of who a "natural born Citizen" is, is nothing more than an attempt at deception and obfuscation. The only question is...are they doing it intentionally, or out of ignorance?

183 posted on 08/10/2011 2:05:32 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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