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To: chuckles

The general fund is just a term that describes the “pot” of money that congress draws from. Even borrowed money can be considered to be part of the general fund. But also tax revenue goes into it.

Yes I know, obviously, that congress is borrowing 1.9 trillion a year to keep that fund solvent. As well as the fact they have been borrowing from(robbing) social security for years to keep the general fund solvent. I am not saying that social security has not been a pyramid scheme. It has as you say been paying out more to individuals than they paid in. But the way that was accomplished was by charging more from people who are currently paying in, but not yet collecting SS. Until the last year or so it has been self sustaining and more. Otherwise their would have been nothing to rob. At the end of this scheme of course is the fact that the people that paid in the most will never get to collect a dime unless as you say.. The rate paid out is drastically reduced. Making this one of the most unfair schemes of all times. Those who paid in the most will collect little or nothing at all.

You know that the original mandate of the federal reserve was to maintain inflation at zero percent. If they had done that instead of playing games to artificially spike the economy and also to play banker bailout- Then Social security could have paid enough. If you understand what I am saying then you will understand that if the Federal reserve had done its job(and followed its mandate) then a loaf of bread would still cost 5 cents. And the average person would still earn less than 100 dollars a week. But all savings would maintain purchasing power through the ages. That is the way it should be. And SS would have worked under those terms if it had not been robbed. And people who saved money would never lose the value of the money they worked hard to save. That coupled with living within our means and not borrowing money would have meant that our economy would have flowed pretty evenly with only minor ups and downs(based on over/under production).


22 posted on 08/07/2011 11:22:28 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
SS could be made whole if it were run like a non government insurance company. Every so often the rates go up or the bennies go down if you operate on insurance assumptions. The government mandates the rates that go out and in every election cycle so it gets screwed up to the max. Remember just this year we had "no inflation" so Obama ruled that a $250 check be sent out even though there was no inflation. Same with unemployment. It's an insurance policy that pays for 26 weeks that the boss pays. Then The government mandates we pay 99 weeks. With what money? We only paid for 26 weeks.

Also we have illegals getting it now and we have immigrants with green cards getting it. We have put kids on SSI because they act up in class and get Ritalin now. Many adults that have never paid in get it because somebody says they are retarded. It has just become a mess.

I'm retired now and waiting to draw mine a couple of years from now, but I would have gladly given mine up at 45-50 if they would have let me put my money and my business match in my 401K. I would be much better off and the taxpayer wouldn't have to worry about me.

What America needs to learn quickly is, if the gubmint doesn't get involved, they can't mess it up, they can't run out of money, and they won't have waste and fraud. If we just eliminate these programs, the problems will go away. If Medicare has $100 billion a year in waste and fraud, then get out of Medicare. If you feel the need, send everybody a check to buy their own. The costs would miraculously be the same as the check the gubmint sends and you would screw yourself if you wasted it. How did we get educated before the Education Dept? We produced more oil without the Energy Dept than afterward. Give me a month and I would cut the government 50% or even more. We don't need most of the stuff they do and all we are doing is paying bureaucrats to download porn for 30 years and then pay them to retire for more money than I ever made. Why is Cisco laying off 20k people and no one has lost their job in DC? Just mandate a 10% cut if nothing else. That way they would have to work at least 3-4 hours a day.

26 posted on 08/08/2011 1:19:19 AM PDT by chuckles
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