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Posted on 08/04/2011 5:51:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Is it? Well, perhaps - both were preceeded by politicians that had already killed the republic, and destroyed their respective constitutions through excessive regulation and usurpation of power.
The Res Publica, “That thing of the People”, was the roman constitution (under the republic. Under the Julio-Claudian empire, not so much).
So ... will Barry’s handicapped uncle follow him in power, after the Praeterian Guard kills him in the coluseum? Will Auntie Z come out of her public housing, to assume the Presidency? Will Obama Make his horse, Incitatus, a senator?
(Strike that last - Biden is already president of the Senate.)
No! his horse is the health nag. She plants organic gardens. She certainly is a horses ass and has the backside to prove it!
‘Well, perhaps - both were preceeded by politicians that had already killed the republic, and destroyed their respective constitutions through excessive regulation and usurpation of power.’
Of course our Republic may have ended years ago. We just may not yet know.
‘will Barry’s handicapped uncle follow him in power,’
I think that Rev Write would constitute a handicapped uncle. A mentally handicapped uncle perhaps? Zatuni could be the new first lady. She would marry anyone to get that green card.
As for the Praetorian Guard. I have to admit the idea did put a brief but guilty smile on my face.
ping for later read. Thanks Sunkenciv
I immediately thought of the 2 mile crater in the Iraq Marshes, but I also recall reading about several craters of roughly the same age in Argentina. I think they may have been from 6 to 14 miles or kilometers in size. I also recall reading that there were two distinct episodes of particularly bad weather spread over a century or more around 2,000 BC.
Another item of interest is the Ipuwer papyrus, written by Ipuwer about the calamity occurring in Egypt at that time. It is in the Lyden Museum or University, I forget which. Overall this may have been a period of repeated boloid strikes and the resultant climate disasters. The mention of 12,600 BC may coincide with the probable boloid strike in upper North America. SC — The book!!
Disaster That Struck The Ancients
It once had a picture of the crater.
John squandered it all away.
If Richarde Coeur de Lion (the Lionheart) had remained, the Magna Carta would not have been signed and probably there would have been a union between France and England. Of course then everyone would have been speaking French (as did Richard the Lion-heart who was French, born in France, spoke only French and not Old English and was buried in France)
I just finished reading Lustrum by Robert harris and I strongly recommend that book -- it's incredibly true to history and is un-put-downable as well!
I knew most of the dry facts, but the way in which the author made the people come alive is fascinating
you are right that the preceding politicians had already killed the republic starting with the Gracchi brothers who started the practise of giving out free bread -- which led to the people getting lazy and demanding more from the state than what they gave
And then you have the line Marius-Sulla-Pompey-Caesar all moving towards the end of the republic
Harris' book really brings Caesar alive as a man of boundless ambition. I always wondered how a guy like Caesar could have outmaneuvered a successful general like Pompey. the politics described in the book are fascinating and give you a psychological portrait of Caesar.
The Roman Republic was doomed from the moment it starting distributing free food -- the people started asking for more and more and the Generals started competing among themselves over who could give them more.
The Principate was a good was to cover this up, but after the crisis of the 3rd century, I think Domitian had no other alternative but to really revert to Kingship.
I object, dear sir. Most of the horses I've seen are better looking..
Great info - thanks for posting that.
Spain limped along with several languages, maybe 8 ~ Ladino, Arabic, Berber, Galician, Latin, Basque, Gallo, Cornwall, and several others.
Good point — norman was a branch of Gallo-Iberian
Thanks! This makes total sense.
There’s an older (eh, can’t find the ‘fo, probably 1970 at the latest) bio of Pompey which was fascinating. There was a third major player I’d never even heard of, who controlled his own gangs of thugs throughout Rome, just as Pompey and Caesar did. Ultimately, Caesar whipped Pompey on the battlefield, time after time, because he was a better general. Pompey even had the advantage of being funded by the Senate, a body which had stabbed him in the back more than once. Throughout its existence, the Republic was just an oligarchy; the addition of a permanent executive was a natural, needed step in an evolved political system which existed to serve the interests of the 30 or so families who literally owned most of Italy. There’s been a kinda odd idea that Caesar represented the end to the Republic, when the fact is, there really was no republic in the first place, and the addition of a permanent executive was a necessity to run an empire that antedated the rise of the imperator.
Now I’ve gotta go back and see how this all came up in this thread. :’)
this picture?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1455000/images/_1458327_aa300.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1455000/images/_1458327_aa300a.jpg
Sabertooth’s post in that thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/586511/posts?page=72#72
VannRox’s:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/586511/posts?page=114#114
That’s probably why they built with cubes.
My pleasure, and(/or) thanks for the kind remarks!
The drought of the time of Joseph was during the Middle Kingdom period, the beginning of which is divided from the end of the Old Kingdom by the first intermediate period (which was a chaotic, disunited mess).
http://egyptphoto.ncf.ca/amenemhet%20III%20hawara5.htm
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