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To: expatpat
expatpat: "The confusion was not re climbing or descending, they knew they were descending"

transcript: "What's the altitude?" "What do you mean what altitude?" "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm descending right?"

Steve86: Sounds like confusion over descent/ascent to me. Then once they got that out of the way the reason for the descent needed to be determined.

expatpat: "but how can you tell without some kind of speed information"

Steve86: Well, one way is to monitor the speed and altitude information available from the GPS system.

98 posted on 07/31/2011 2:02:32 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86
Your transcript quote does not mean climbing/descending confusion to me. The first question was about the altitude itself, not rate-of-change (remember, the plane was required to maintain a specific altitude). The second question might have been trying to distinguish between pressure altitude on the altimeter and GPS altitude from satellites, that's not clear. The third sentence shows they knew they were descending.

The ground speed given by GPS differs from the airspeed, due to the winds, and these can be very strong up there at 35,000. However, it might have provided some rough guidance if they had any decent wx info on winds at their altitude.

100 posted on 07/31/2011 2:17:14 PM PDT by expatpat
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