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To: Wonder Warthog

I don’t know, I look up the definition of scientific process:

http://www2.nau.edu/~gaud/bio372/class/behavior/sciproc.htm

Doesn’t appear that we have reached a Scientific Theory yet but we are already jumping to a commercial product.

Those involved say we don’t know how it works, it just does, trust us.

All we have is a grab bag of hypothesis with disagreement on the observations among groups.


311 posted on 08/01/2011 11:31:10 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
"I don’t know, I look up the definition of scientific process:

http://www2.nau.edu/~gaud/bio372/class/behavior/sciproc.htm

I think you may be confusing "hypothesis" with "mechanism" or "theory". In the case of LANR/CF, the "hypothesis" is essentially "we have a non-chemical reaction that produces energy".

"Doesn’t appear that we have reached a Scientific Theory yet but we are already jumping to a commercial product."

Has happened many times in history. Don't sweat it. And sometimes there are phenomena that are nicely theoretically explained that never yield a commercial product. One example in this very field is "muon catalyzed cold fusion". Well explained theoretically, experimentally reproducible, but will never yield a practical energy producing device unless someone comes up with a simple/cheap way to generate muons.

"Those involved say we don’t know how it works, it just does, trust us."

Not really, virtually all the folks working in the LANR/CF area publish (as can be seen from the MANY papers cited at the "LENR/CANR" website). And I'm sure that Rossi will do so eventually, since he will be paying the U. of Bologna to do precisely a detailed and publishable study precisely for that purpose. Part of the problem has been the ongoing "witch hunt" from the "hot fusion" physicists to actively keep papers on the topic from being published, so progress has been impeded by the artificial warpage of the "process of science".

"All we have is a grab bag of hypothesis with disagreement on the observations among groups."

Again, not really. The multiplicity of hypotheses and observations seem to be converging on a common set of conditions that will allow good reproducibility. Several researchers recently described mechanisms/apparatus that allows the phenomenon to be easily repeated. I think progress in getting to a well-grounded theory will be forthcoming shortly.

312 posted on 08/01/2011 12:56:13 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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