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To: Kevmo

“Nobel Prize for it. “

The same people that gave Obama the Peace Prize. The Nobel committee is a joke and is not to be taken seriously.


134 posted on 07/31/2011 7:29:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad; Kevmo
March 2011 marked the Centenary of the discovery of the Atomic Nucleus by Ernst Rutherford who was awarded the Nobel Prize for it.

Actually, I take the Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry and Medicine seriously. The issue here is much different.

Kevmo and his crowd continully resort to a long string of rhetorical fallacies, this one being a fallacy of composition of groups, sort of "they shall be known by the company they keep" and when they are keeping company with Nobel Prize winners there must be something there.

Well, they certainly are not keeping company with Rutherford, whose work has nothing in particular to do with this. In fact, the contrast his work offers ought to be a warning to everyone duped by this rot.

You see, Rutherford's results, that alpha particles were scattered off of matter as if off of discrete hard spheres rather than as if it were passing through jelly was a "surprise." But his experiments were meticulously performed, he did the theory to explain his results, AND his results were immediately verifiable and verified by a large number of other experimental physicists. Indeed, it would be a simple matter for most undergraduate physics students to repeat his experiment.

The fundamental point is that Rutherford's demonstration that the nuclear model of the atom was the only one consistent with particle scattering results has very little bearing on the false claims of these fraudsters. Rutherford's work today is of far more pedagogical value for the demonstration of how to improve our understanding of physics than the specific result (which was important enough in its day).

138 posted on 07/31/2011 7:58:34 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: CodeToad

We went through this on the last thread. We both agree that the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. But the Nobel prizes in physics & other hard sciences are not a joke. Unless you want to claim that they are a joke in the hard sciences.

Basically, if a guy gets a Nobel prize in the hard sciences, he’s a smart cookie in that particular field.


185 posted on 07/31/2011 3:11:37 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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