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S. Korea: Aerobics Blamed for Mysterious Shopping Mall Tremor
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 07/20/11

Posted on 07/20/2011 4:38:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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1 posted on 07/20/2011 4:38:41 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 07/20/2011 4:39:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Probably not enough rebar in the concrete.


3 posted on 07/20/2011 4:40:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’d be a little scared to work in the office below that


4 posted on 07/20/2011 4:43:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: driftdiver
It's kind of long and thin:

Compared with other buildings, it is said to have more steel and less concrete.

5 posted on 07/20/2011 4:48:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is a prank waiting to happen. Just use Twitter or Facebook to do a flash mob inside the building where everyone gathers on a particular floor and at a very specific time everyone just starts jumping up and down for one minute. Then go down or up ten or so stories and do the same the again. The people monitoring the building would certainly close the building again.


6 posted on 07/20/2011 4:49:56 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: nuconvert

Consider yourself working in a ship on the sea.:-)


7 posted on 07/20/2011 4:50:42 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: driftdiver

I wonder if it has something to do with the resonant frequency of the building. This is one of the reasons that you don’t march an army over a bridge.


8 posted on 07/20/2011 4:57:49 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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That’s quite possible.

If a group of exercisers can induce such strong vibrations in a building, I’d be very concerned about the building stability. I wonder if they are having engineers examine it?


9 posted on 07/20/2011 5:05:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: driftdiver
Probably not enough rebar in the concrete.

Probably got billed for it, it just never made its way into the concrete.

10 posted on 07/20/2011 5:08:57 AM PDT by csvset
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Technomart... huh. I think I won’t be visiting their cinema megaplex anytime soon.

That said, Korean concrete is mixed with a *LOT* more sand than what is allowed in concrete mixed in the US. Also, their construction companies do not let it cure before building around it.


11 posted on 07/20/2011 5:22:07 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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Funny, I had a motor home like that. But that’s another story.


12 posted on 07/20/2011 5:33:05 AM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what ?)
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To: The Antiyuppie

South Korea had a huge building boom a while back. I’ve seen other stories where the developer couldn’t get enough rebar but had to meet deadlines, so they put the building up anyway.

There was the shopping mall which collapsed a few years ago there. There was another massive project where they were putting up enough apartments for 300,000 people. In both cases the developers went to jail.

I’ve felt buildings shake before due to people. The floors quiver in parking garages as cars go by. This sounds to more pronounced.


13 posted on 07/20/2011 6:01:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Funny, I had a motor home like that.

If This Mall Is A'Rockin', Don't Come A'Knockin'!


14 posted on 07/20/2011 9:29:38 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The local mall, Galleria at Crystal Run, flexes rather oddly on the upper deck if people walk ‘hard’ on the floors.
Saw a bridge flex from foot traffic when a bunch of soldiers wandered across it.
Rather trippy stuff.


15 posted on 07/20/2011 9:42:34 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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Saw a bridge flex from foot traffic when a bunch of soldiers wandered across it.

 

I recall reading several years ago about how San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge flexed and apparently received some structural damage during some sort of marathon or mass pedestrian event when the bridge was closed to vehicle traffic.  Apparently, the weight per square foot floor loading is considerably greater than a vehicle and greater than what a bridge's design will accommodate when a great number of people are packed closely together.  It seems reasonable that a similar excessive floor loading might exist within a building, but I would think that in an aerobics class people would be spread out more over the floor.  But, if they're jumping up & down the landing impact could make up for being spread out.

I'm no aerobics expert, however, so I could be wrong.

16 posted on 07/20/2011 12:07:22 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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It is possible to add energy to a natural vibration incrementally.
If their jumping jacks equal a natural harmonic, the building will begin to shake.
And then begin to shake worse.
Kinda like making a large wave in a bathtub by making smaller waves and then adding a little energy to the wave every time it returns.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 12:13:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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That all sounds quite logical and a sound enough principle to encourage exercise classes involving large numbers of people jumping simultaneously to do that particular activity outdoors ;-)


18 posted on 07/20/2011 12:24:43 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

Outside or on teh ground floor on a large cement slab that is firmly rooted to the ground with no space below it at the least depending on group size.


19 posted on 07/20/2011 12:30:48 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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Agreed. I'm noticing in the article that this effect was recorded with a group of only 23 people. 23 x 120 lbs = 2760lbs slamming down on the floor rhythmically.

For a comparison, I'm noticing that the curb weight of a WW2 era Jeep is 2,293 lb(1040 kg).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys_MB

I wouldn't want to continuously & rhythmically drop a Jeep onto an interior floor of a high-rise, or any building for that matter! ;-)

20 posted on 07/20/2011 12:42:44 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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