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To: Cyber Liberty

Age + observation = wisdom. Knocking down anecdotes from those with experience is folly.

The biggest of all foolishness with logical argument is to claim, ahead of time, that the results are known. You led off that way, when you preemptively discounted all anecdote, or my or anyone’s experience, no matter how refined or tested that experience.

What good is any study that is not backed with wisdom, and where does wisdom come from?

There’s no fallacy to say that because there is a correlation that suggests or even strongly implies causation a person a bit older than greenhorn informs his or her words before saying them with the wisdom of age that has already accounted for that distinction.

The kind of personality that fits a heavy smoker is also the kind of personality that drives cars hard, and with lack of care. But that’s their choice to do so. A smoker drives a car into the ground, a smoker’s vehicle doesn’t make for a good value buy.

These are my observations.

It may be that there are smokers with refinement who don’t leave butts to smolder out at all reachable points from the driver’s seat, or leave layers of smoke on every surface in the car. I’m talking about smokers who leave a obvious spoor.


82 posted on 07/10/2011 2:40:47 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
The kind of personality that fits a heavy smoker is also the kind of personality that drives cars hard, and with lack of care. But that’s their choice to do so. A smoker drives a car into the ground, a smoker’s vehicle doesn’t make for a good value buy.

You, as a buyer, are allowed to take that correlation as far as you wish, and if that means you turn the sale down cold, it's your right. Until Obama gets his way.

The biggest of all foolishness with logical argument is to claim, ahead of time, that the results are known. You led off that way, when you preemptively discounted all anecdote, or my or anyone’s experience, no matter how refined or tested that experience.

You claimed there was a causation, yet offered no proof. You should know, as I read and understand your reasoning, the burden of proof lay with you, not me. You chose not take it on.

That is why I discounted your anecdotal evidence. Please desist with the calling of names. It makes you look foolish. IOW, be nice.

I could say, for example, the following is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen converted into words:

There’s no fallacy to say that because there is a correlation that suggests or even strongly implies causation a person a bit older than greenhorn informs his or her words before saying them with the wisdom of age that has already accounted for that distinction.

But I would be cruel to point out you are being "an old fart."

85 posted on 07/10/2011 3:27:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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