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LightSquared admits it will knock out 200,000 sat-navs
The Register ^ | 1 July 2011 | Bill Ray

Posted on 07/01/2011 11:40:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 07/01/2011 11:40:13 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 07/01/2011 11:40:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Looks like it's going to be a long month for the FCC

Part of the acronym "FCC" is "Federal".
If we're looking for a Federal agency to do The Right Thing, we're deluding ourselves.

4 posted on 07/01/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: ShadowAce
sees no reason why they should be forced to change their designs

You're listening on a frequency you're not supposed to. Your problem, you fix it.

5 posted on 07/01/2011 11:49:59 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce

Sounds to me like LightSpeed needs to make the adjustments. GPS was there first, and is used by critical systems. Which is not to say, if as LS claims, the GPS industry has been less discriminatory in it’s bandwidth tuning, that the GPS players don’t have work to do. But LS is the new player, and if there’s even a 1 in 10,000 chance that it might interfere with Nav/ILS systems (and I’m not talking Tom Tom), then, no go LS.


6 posted on 07/01/2011 11:58:45 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ShadowAce

Just thinking .. the amazingly critical calculations for GPS navigation in aircraft; really only matters at airports. You need to drop that aircraft on a very specific spot and speed. Flying cross country, an error of a couple yards just doesn’t matter. It only matters where the rubber meets the runway.

Everywhere else - standard positional GPS should be ‘good enough’.


7 posted on 07/01/2011 12:06:53 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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LightSquard should go pi$$ up a rope.
Their business model is dysfunctional and would likely generate hundreds of lawsuits. Why would the FCC even consider them ?
8 posted on 07/01/2011 12:09:35 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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Why would the FCC even consider them ?

I've been thinking the exact same thing for a year.

9 posted on 07/01/2011 12:12:32 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: ShadowAce
Wireless broadband firm LightSquared has admitted that its original plan would have knocked out most GPS sat-nav kit, but argues that its new plan will only leave 200,000 users lost.

Oh, well then. Nothing to see here, move along.

10 posted on 07/01/2011 12:13:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce
All of LS's stuff to date has probably been built with the highest quality components so they can prove the technology.

Wait until the lowest cost bidder in China wins the award to manufacture it all.

11 posted on 07/01/2011 12:24:19 PM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: Hodar

Probably some congress critters or important donors are invested init...just a guess....


12 posted on 07/01/2011 12:25:22 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: antiRepublicrat
You're listening on a frequency you're not supposed to.

LS also seems to be bleeding over quite a bit. Their problem, they should fix it.

13 posted on 07/01/2011 12:27:08 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: AFreeBird
Sounds to me like LightSpeed needs to make the adjustments. GPS was there first

So you buy some property next to an existing one. You want to build a fence on the property line, but your neighbor complains that you can't do that because he had planted his garden five feet into your property. You have someone demanding that you curtail your use of your property because he didn't properly contain his activities to his own property.

14 posted on 07/01/2011 12:28:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce

Lightsquared shouldn’t have gotten those frequencies in the first place. But since they got them, they need to be sure their use of them doesn’t interfere with existing devices. That definitely includes the “only” 200,000 aviation devices that are the most expensive and critical units.


15 posted on 07/01/2011 12:44:42 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Lurker
LS also seems to be bleeding over quite a bit.

I'd need some evidence to counter this statement from the report:

"The reason for this is not because LightSquared would be improperly transmitting in the GPS band. Rather it is because legacy GPS receivers do not adequately reject transmissions from base stations operating in the adjacent frequency band because the GPS receivers have been deliberately or, sometimes, inadvertently, designed or manufactured with the assumption that there would be no adjacent-band terrestrial transmissions.."

16 posted on 07/01/2011 12:52:33 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

That’s LS’s position, but I’d need to see some evidence that my Garmin is indeed accepting interference from a different band.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 12:57:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Hodar

I’ve heard that the owner of LS is a big Obama contributor.


18 posted on 07/01/2011 1:14:08 PM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: Lurker

Read the report and produce evidence to the contrary. It’s perfectly possible that LS is overstepping its band, but I haven’t seen anything to that effect yet.


19 posted on 07/01/2011 1:16:17 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I’ll take a look at it from both sides and see who’s right and who’s wrong. If you come up with anything please do let me know.

Thanks.


20 posted on 07/01/2011 1:22:45 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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