Posted on 06/16/2011 11:51:15 AM PDT by ransomnote
Once a malicious "baseless rumor" on the net, now it is written up in a regional newspaper with readership in Tokyo and Kanto area.
Tokyo Shinbun (paper edition only, 6/16/2011) reports that many children in Koriyama City in Fukushima Prefecture, 50 kilometers from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, are suffering inexplicable nosebleed, diarrhea, and lack of energy since the nuke plant accident. Quick translation of the article:
What's happening to children in Koriyama City in Fukushima right now? Nosebleed, diarrhea, lack of energy - "Effect of radiation unknown" says the doctor
Report by Ao Ideta, Tokyo Shinbun, June 16, 2011
On June 12, a non-profit organization called "The Bridge to Chernobyl" (チェルノブイリへのかけはし) held a free clinic in Koriyama City in Fukushima Prefecture, 50 kilometers [west] from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.
Worried about the effect of radiation exposure, 50 families brought their children to see the doctor.
A 39-year-old mother of two told the doctor that her 6-year-old daughter had nosebleed everyday for 3 weeks in April. For 1 week, the daughter bled copiously from both nostrils. The mother said their doctor told her it was just a seasonal allergy from pollen. Her other child, 2-year-old son, had nosebleed from end of April to May.
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I am equating the deception of the ‘second most brutal communist totalitarian government on the face of the earth, the USSR’ in response to nuclear contamination (not just Chernobyl but MAN have they got a repulsive history in lying to their people about radioactive contamination!!!) to signs that the Japanese government intends to follow in their denials (to the world, and to the affected citizens). Actually, the ‘second most brutal communist totalitarian government on the face of the earth, the USSR’ behaved BETTER than the Japanese in that the Soviets dug in and attacked the problem at great human cost whereas the Japanese government has consigned the world to months, possibly years of radioactive releases, all while announcing everything is fine. An officer who handled the original Chernobyl disaster was shocked at how little the Japanese were willing to do or risk in response to this. Fukushima will certainly exceed Chernobyl for world wide damage.
I take it you have no scientific or engineering background.
It’s amazing how nuke supporters sneer at any facts or points of view, no matter how well educated or experienced in the field, that don’t come from nuke supporters.
Amazing.
Its not the facts they sneer at, its the interpretation, and there is nothing wrong with sneering at points of view, I sneer at the liberal ones all the time..
Ah...the last retreat of the apologist - ‘credentials’. I am not an engineer but because of sites like es-skf.blogspot.com and physicsforum etc. I know that the circumstances surrounding the disaster are different.
I was thinking after my last post that the Japanese performance re nuke response may really be worse than that of the Soviets because the Japanese had the Soviet example to study. The Soviets rued the fact that they tried to keep people calm instead of training them in advance how to respond in various reactor scenarios. They rued the fact that they told the nearby town that all was well while the reactor smoked until they did the math and figured out that the townspeople would all receive a lethal does in two weeks if not evacuated. With the history of Chernobyl, why did the Japanese resist enlarging the exclusion zone despite international calls to do so? Why have a SPEEDI warning system and then decide to withhold the information from citizens when something bad happens? Soviets tried to conceal the extent of the disaster and it didn’t work. The Japanese couldn’t possibly have examined the terrain sufficiently when they were assuring everyone that everything was under control. Even now, they engage in Kubuki theatre as if 3 core melt downs and instability of fuel pools is ‘under control’? The Soviets lost power and were dragged before the people in court where they were forced to admit to their lies re the disaster. Does Japan think that they can put a polyester cover over the public? Japan says Tokyo is not contaminated - foreign scientists test and find hotspots - now Japan will test.
According to Dr. Shunichi Yamashita, who’s at the Atomic Bomb Research Institute, pregnant women are safe from radioactive concerns and even 100mvert per year would be harmless to their fetus and
“Effects of radiation do not come to people that are happy… They come to people that are weak-spirited”
See, I think if he’s not telling the truth (women who have babies with birth defects related to this radiation contamination are ‘weak spirited’), the gov should step in and provide pregnant mothers with accurate information. Unless, of course the government condones this kind of misinformation.
PS: Oh I do have a degree in Biology and spent time working as a field biologist so I do have a ‘science background’. You know, most of the apologists who said all was well from the very beginning, and demanded credentials, are awfully quiet these days.
For some reason some people think conservative = pro-nuke power and liberal = anti-nuke power.
Being pro-nuke power is not a litmus test for conservatives.
So only people who work in nuke plants etc are worthy of having a viable opinion. All the rest of us should shut up and eat Fukushima produce.
Okay.
It still surprises me but then I remind myself that sneering is all they have left - their credibility is smoldering 24/7 on the coast of Japan. Fukushima and it’s apologists have been exposed as toxic.
For some reason some people think conservative = pro-nuke power and liberal = anti-nuke power.
Being pro-nuke power is not a litmus test for conservatives.
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Yes, I agree. In fact, the problem seems to be a form of ‘special interests’ I think that Dems are known for (SEIU). Why should the government be allowed to join forces with the nuke industry and support it’s interests against the citizens? I know it came about during the 50’s rush for weaponry but the toll continues to be taken 60 years later. The nuke industry should not have the gov aiding/abetting it. In Japan, the gov and nuke industry routinely trade executives and regulates itself.
It was only a month or more after March 11 that the Japanese government decided (due to public complaints) that maybe the regulatory agency ought to separate from the promote nuke power agency. They were literally one and the same. May still be yet.
The only reason nuke power is happening at all is because the US gov underwrites the insurance. IOW you and me and all taxpayers pay for the privilege of nuke power. No insurance companies will cover it without Uncle Sam underwriting it.
That’s not conservative. At all.
Actually, a lot of what passes for “conservatism” nowadays is really an form of fascim - corporate/gov incest to the great detriment of everyone else. I really don’t consider myself a conservative any more, but a Constitutionalist.
I wouldn’t say a few weeks reading an internet blog is a good substitute for a 4-year college degree in engineering and a masters degree in nuclear physics.
Although maybe you are just that smart.
Anybody stupid enough to say “all is well” should have been quiet from the start.
I don’t however remember anybody here saying that.
The coast of Japan actually looks pretty good for having been destroyed by an earthquake and a tsunami. And there’s nothing much smoldering. It was hysterical claims like that which drove a lot of the early discussions here.
Now we know better, and we have gone from predictions that California was going to be irradiated to a mother complaining about a kid with a bloody nose.
Yep, the world is surely coming to an end.
And meanwhile, the “experts” quoted by those predicting an apocalypse have moved on, spouting nonsense about a “level 4” event in Nebraska, and nonsense about flooding a containment vessel to cool off a reactor that isn’t even loaded with fuel.
Next month there will be some other “oncoming disaster”, whatever it takes to destroy one of the safest power industries in our history — and that’s WITH the explosion at Chernobyl.
I wouldn’t say a few weeks reading an internet blog is a good substitute for a 4-year college degree in engineering and a masters degree in nuclear physics.
Although maybe you are just that smart.
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Oh I suspect you know I was referring to studying the writings of OTHER ENGINEERING experts and scientists who write to help the rest of us understand what the Japanese gov., TEPCO, and apologists are lying about. I know nuke apologists would prefer it if only they were allowed to speak or have an opinion on such matters but with the internet side stepping media blackouts, it’s just not going to happen.
Wrong. Your responses would be more coherent if you actually read the entire article.
The mother said their doctor told her it was just a seasonal allergy from pollen. Her other child, 2-year-old son, had nosebleed from end of April to May.
Well if you watch the Fukushima live cam you would see smoke/steam rising intermittently when it’s cold enough. You know the cores are still molten and giving off radiation freely.
“And meanwhile, the “experts” quoted by those predicting an apocalypse have moved on...”
So saying that Fukushima is not under control, that the cores have melted before TEPCO would admit the cores have melted, that it’s giving off radiation and we’re in new territory in terms of disaster response - these are predictions of apocalypse? And you minimize a free clinic addressing concerns about children’s health in Fukushima to a ‘kid with a bloody nose’? If you must distort that much just to write a reply there’s little point in reading your posts. And no, the experts have not moved on - the pro nuke apologists are the ones pretending that Fukushima ‘happened in March’ and is old news.
“Next month there will be some other “oncoming disaster”, whatever it takes to destroy one of the safest power industries in our history”
So posting about 3 molten cores and tons of spent fuel exposed is all a conspiracy to ‘destroy’ nuke power? Yeah, there’s that distortion you find necessary...
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