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Question Concerning IPV6 - Vanity
6/13/11 | self

Posted on 06/13/2011 1:00:23 PM PDT by Lmo56

I got a pop-up when I was at the Yahoo Web Site the other day. It said I could check to make sure that I had IPV6 capability.

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/ipv6/

When I tested it, Yahoo said that I had a problem. But, I DO have the IPV6 protocol [Win XP] enabled on my computer.

I then checked Microsoft and it ran an automatic program that said my computer was IPV6 ready, but that I only had IPV4 connectivity.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/bb530961

Am I correct in assuming that it is my ISP that is limiting me to IPV4 at the moment?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computer; ipv6

1 posted on 06/13/2011 1:00:28 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56
Links: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/ipv6/

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/bb530961

I got similar results.

2 posted on 06/13/2011 1:09:22 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Lmo56

It might also be your router or modem.


3 posted on 06/13/2011 1:09:22 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (In 2012 get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: Lmo56

While XP may be IPv6-ready, many ISPs are not. You need EVERYBODY from your end to the server end to be IPv6 capable in order to set up an IPv6 connection.


4 posted on 06/13/2011 1:15:40 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Lmo56

Correct.

The only way you can run IPv6 from your client computer out into the “big-I Internet” is for your ISP to provide you with IPv6.

Otherwise, you’d have to tunnel IPv6 inside IPv4, and you really don’t want (or need) to do that.


5 posted on 06/13/2011 1:15:45 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

I was pretty sure that it was the connectivity through my ISP [and NOT my PC] - but the verbage at both web sites is a bit vague ...


6 posted on 06/13/2011 1:20:28 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

http://test-ipv6.com/

Gives a good test and explanation of the results IMO.


7 posted on 06/13/2011 1:32:42 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Lmo56
WinXP is not competely IPv6 ready, never was, and never will be. There was only a patch for a limited IPv6 support. It may be sufficient for your needs, or may not be.

Regardless, it is rocket science to set up a working, routable, firewalled IPv6 LAN today. I suggest you don't even go there. If you must, PFSense is one way to do it; but you need to be a computer scientist to even read that Web site.

Eventually IPv6 will be delivered to us all by our ISPs, through routers that they will provide to us. At this time it isn't happening. The latest router from 2Wire, used by AT&T U-Verse and installed a week ago, doesn't deal in IPv6, as far as I can tell.

8 posted on 06/13/2011 1:35:40 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Lmo56

Your computer, your network card, your router, your cable modem, your entire cable company infrastructure, the backbone internet provider, all the way up to Yahoo needs to be IPv6 in order to work.

Converting the whole Internet to IPv6 will probably cost billions, as millions of very expensive pro-level routers and firewalls need to be switched out, along with hundreds of millions of cable modems, DSL boxes and home routers.


9 posted on 06/13/2011 2:37:46 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; Lmo56
Your computer, your network card, your router, your cable modem, your entire cable company infrastructure, the backbone internet provider, all the way up to Yahoo needs to be IPv6 in order to work.

I must add one more item to that list: All your expensive computer SOFTWARE needs to support IPv6 in order to work.

This is something many people overlook. It is not obvious what software supports what. Does Adobe Reader support IPv6? Apparently yes. Does Skype support IPv6? Seems like no, it doesn't. Well, Skype is a requirement in many households. Does WebEx support IPv6? Looks like no - and that is a requirement in many businesses.

There are millions of pieces of software out there, some obscure, some invisible to the user. Many of them are out of maintenance, and it would cost big bucks to upgrade. Some of those software packages cost tens of thousands of dollars per copy! It is a real nightmare to go through your list of software and figure out what works and what doesn't. Even if some ISV claims IPv6 support it doesn't mean that it really works - they couldn't possibly test it well when the software was written and licensed to you. A whole bunch of software (and hardware) can't be replaced and can't be on an IPv6 network.

The current approach is "the dual stack" - meaning that IPv4 remains the main workhorse, and IPv6 is also enabled to allow migration of services from IPv4. Once the majority of people are comfortable with IPv6 they may drop the IPv4 service completely. If you ask me, it may easily take a decade to get to that point even if we start today, which isn't really happening either.

Outside of the hardware and software upgrade, an upgrade of skills is also required. The NAT that is bread and butter of household routers is supposed to be cast away as a bad dream. We are supposed to have routable IP addresses on each of our devices, and we are supposed to get special IPv6 firewalls for that. If you want one today you probably need to build one yourself. In other words, it's not easy, and it requires massive support by the industry. Today it's pretty hard even for an experienced software engineer to put together a working IPv6 solution for his own home - he has to do all the legwork himself, unless his ISP offers it in a box.

10 posted on 06/13/2011 4:28:00 PM PDT by Greysard
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