Posted on 06/06/2011 7:52:42 PM PDT by PROCON
Maybe LA dosen’t coddle murderers.
I suppose there are a few options, but none of them would necessarilly be “good.” We have come a long, long way in understanding the criminal mind in the last 40 years. In some cases, maybe people can be helped by medications. Still, for those who could not, your question is still valid. There are a whole lot of problems with the justice system, and it’s impossible to define a punishment for every crime. I think that’s part of why we are supposed to be judged case by case by our peers.
A caning or such may work on someone where a day or two in jail may be enough for others. This jail “one sentence fits all” system we have is not working. The biggest problem is single parent households, but that’s another tanget. I find your question to be intelligent and thought provoking. Perhaps the best simple and concise response that I can give is, “I don’t know.”
Thank you, it’s a never-ending battle, that’s for sure. Thankfully, FR is a place where we can have a meeting of minds that allows us to (sometimes, haha) resolve our differences of opinion through safe discourse (no leftist thugs), and hopefully learn enough to continually improve and grow, the way our Founders intended.
(P.S. Thanks JimRob, if your reading!)
However, most Freepers on this thread have fallen into vigilante justice mode.
As much as I detest criminals, our Constitution has a process for dealing with them.
I am fully in favor of the death penalty. If someone has murdered someone in cold blood, then try them out in front of a jury of their peers, convict them and hang ‘em high.
I live in Texas. We have the death penalty. I greatly support it.
What I don't support is vengeance torture. It has surprised me that so many Freepers seem to advocate that. That makes us no better than ROP.
We are BETTER than that. Look at what GWB said when Osama Bin Laden was killed. He said “I feel no happiness, just satisfaction that justice was done”
There is no happiness in torturing someone for 40 years in solitary.
If they are guilty of murder, then convict them and hang ‘em.
That's exactly how I see it. I have no sympathy for these dirtbags whatsoever.
In some ways that may be even worse than staying in solitary!
Considering the nature of the average prisoner in the pen, solitary may be a blessing.
Well, now, under interantional law?
Stuff that. If the 'cruel and unusual punishment' clause doesn't take care of it, it is none of the rest of the world's business.
It is why we, a soverign nation, have our Constitution.
Obviously the Court should have allowed them all to be retried and then executed.
I'd check the calendar on this case before passing around blame.
‘Angola 2’ Leave Solitary Cells in La. After 36 Years
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89140779&ft=1&f=1001
March 27, 2008
Two former Black Panthers imprisoned in Louisiana are out of solitary confinement for the first time since the 1970s. State corrections officials say Herman Wallace and Albert Woodfox were moved into a “maximum security dormitory” earlier this week. Louisiana prison officials once said the men, known as the Angola 2, would never be moved.
The blood and guts gang is leaving out a tiny detail. They were given life sentences, not the chair.
The objective of the penal system is multifold, punishment, deterrence, rehabilitation, and securing the rest of society from predators.For me, the latter is the most important objective.I would suggest that in the case of a lifer in a non death penalty state killing another guard or prisoner, the only way to secure the larger society, in this case, the general prison population and the guards from this predator is to separate the predator from that society. There are no other options. One cannot define “cruel and unusual” in a void. Some would define cruel and unusual as knowingly allowing such predators to stay in the general prison population knowing he is a threat to the general population.
If these guys had been convicted of murdering someone other than a prison guard, would they even be in jail 40 years after the fact?
So, in your world, eliminating the right to free association is a step in the right direction. Interesting.
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