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To: Red Steel; Seizethecarp
In regard to Dr. Orly's subpoena:
Any attorney can issue a subpoena as an officer of the court. But it is entirely a different matter if a court-ordered subpoena is served. In either case, those upon whom it is served can stonewall, in the case of an attorney-generated subpoena, forever. In the case of an out-of-state-court, long enough to seem forever, and in the case of a federal court, a much shorter period.

Remember also that Hawaii has its own very tightly drafted FOIA-like statute, The Uniform Information Provision Act. Although the HIDOH is clearly in violation of the statute, it has not been taken to Hawaiian courts for enforcement! Why not?

To boil down the HI UIPA statute, it says that if a state official makes a decision or pronouncement, all the records, data, and other documentation that went into the process MUST be provided to ANY citizen who asks for it.

BTW, As much as I dislike being in disagreement with the Woman I Love, I see nothing to indicate that the 9th Circus has ordered Discovery. She and Kreep were lumped together as an obvious way to dismiss them both, and their pleadings were definitely at cross purposes. However, this time the harpoons did not bounce off the whale. The bad news is that the 9th Circus could literally take years to issue a ruling.

172 posted on 06/03/2011 9:35:17 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. Bit too early to start shooting.)
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To: little jeremiah; Red Steel; Seizethecarp
I just read the link on Royce Lamberth' s quashing of the motion by the SSA! Thanks!

I don't get how "redacted SS#s" are going to be viewed as evidence. Does it mean that they will only be seen by the Judge and not released to the public?

IOW, is this a privacy issue to protect the innocent ... or the guilty?

BTW, kudos to Dr. Orly on her first real victory! Lamberth is hopefully not one of the judges she accuses of being a Commie SOB in Obama's pocket!

173 posted on 06/03/2011 9:47:37 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. Bit too early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; azishot
Also from the article.

"When we asked Taitz if Lamberth could issue a subpoena himself, she replied, “I don’t know. The officials in Hawaii might say that they need to have an order from a judge in a court there. Also, usually judges don’t sign subpoenas in FOIA cases. However, I will try to find out if Lamberth could sign it.” "

Azishot - I have NO FAITH in any member of congress. Not a single one. Didn’t Issa state that he wouldn’t investigate the eligibility issue?

Yes. It's a DC country club. They don't want to make waves as that may put a crimp in their DC lifestyles, and it may interfere with them playing patty cake together and golf games with OBami.

174 posted on 06/03/2011 9:49:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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