[Pharmboy]

Lotsa facts here that were new to me, especially putting the RevWar into a global perspective. Who knew that Gibraltar had an effect on the peace negotiations?

I would recommend clicking through and reading the 3-page article at the IBD site...no registration or fee required.

[Pharmboy]

Reminds me of "The Apotheosis of Washington" in the Capitol Rotunda...this was painted by Benjamin West

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[Captain Kirk]

Those darn Americans. Always breaking treaties!

[SunkenCiv]

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[Cheburashka]

The French wanted a weak United States, one that would be a permanent French client. Under their proposal the land that would become the Northwest Territory would have been left in British hands. Mississippi, Alabama, the western half of Tennessee and the western tip of Kentucky would go to Spain. The U.S. would get the eastern half of Tennessee, and most of Kentucky, but not all the way to the Mississippi River.

The result would have been a U.S. with a built-in permanent hostility towards Britain and the desire to acquire the land north of the Ohio, but too weak to go to war without French aid. A dependent country that would always be hostile to Britain, and the French could use it as an ally when France wanted war with Britain, but that would be forced to make peace when France wanted to make peace.

[bushpilot1]

http://www.franklinpapers.org/franklin/framedVolumes.jsp

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Franklin (1706-90) had been sent as ambassador to France in December 1776, when he was 70 years old.

Interesting fact...