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To: MestaMachine; Godzilla
But evil exists and it is human in nature, not supernatural. [MestaMachine, knowing better than Job, Zechariah, the author of Chronicles -- not to mention God -- combined!)

You must have skipped over the book of Job then, as well as other OT passages that shows that evil is also supernatural. [Godzilla]

On the contrary, Godzilla. I have probably read Job harder and with more interest than you can possibly imagine. I have written treatises on it. [MestaMachine]

Yeah, Mesta...why don't you tell us your "treatises" on Job 1:6-12 and 2:1-8 as well as Zechariah 3:1-2 and 1 Chronicles 21:1:

1.1 Chronicles 21:1 [ David Counts the Fighting Men ] Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. 1 Chronicles 21:1-3 (in Context) 1 Chronicles 21 (Whole Chapter)
2.Job 1:6
One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.
Job 1:5-7 (in Context) Job 1 (Whole Chapter)
3.Job 1:7
The LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Job 1:6-8 (in Context) Job 1 (Whole Chapter)
4.Job 1:8
Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
Job 1:7-9 (in Context) Job 1 (Whole Chapter)
5.Job 1:9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied.
Job 1:8-10 (in Context) Job 1 (Whole Chapter)
6.Job 1:12
The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
Job 1:11-13 (in Context) Job 1 (Whole Chapter)
7.Job 2:1
On another day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him.
Job 2:1-3 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
8.Job 2:2
And the LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Job 2:1-3 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
9.Job 2:3
Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
Job 2:2-4 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
10.Job 2:4
“Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life.
Job 2:3-5 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
11.Job 2:6
The LORD said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”
Job 2:5-7 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
12.Job 2:7
So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.
Job 2:6-8 (in Context) Job 2 (Whole Chapter)
13.Zechariah 3:1
[ Clean Garments for the High Priest ] Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. Zechariah 3:1-3 (in Context) Zechariah 3 (Whole Chapter)
14.Zechariah 3:2
The LORD said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” Zechariah 3:1-3 (in Context) Zechariah 3 (Whole Chapter)

73 posted on 05/16/2011 3:52:38 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

And what dd I say, dimwit? I SAID Shaitan is the adversary, sent to TEST man not enslave him...and here YOU are quoting scripture that proves me 100% right. That man would CHOOSE evil is his own failing. Man’s choice. ALWAYS. Obviously, as Job is interpreted, Job did NOT choose evil. If you choose evil, you enslave YOURSELF to it.
Anything else?


77 posted on 05/16/2011 7:14:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Colofornian

‘But evil exists and it is human in nature, not supernatural. [MestaMachine, knowing better than Job, Zechariah, the author of Chronicles — not to mention God — combined!)”

No, MestaNachine who obviously knows better than YOU. Do the word “comprehend” ring a bell? It’s terribly strange to debate someone who disproves their own arguments. In fact, Job also said his desire was to reason with G-d. And guess what, G-d answered him. Because all of those who spoke did so in arrogance without KNOWING what they were talking about. Like you, for instance.


81 posted on 05/16/2011 7:43:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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