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Posted on 05/07/2011 9:27:55 PM PDT by tlb
May 21, "starting in the Pacific Rim at around the 6 p.m. local time hour, in each time zone, there will be a great earthquake,". The true Christian believers will be "raptured": They'll fly upward to heaven.
"and on top of all that, there's no more salvation at that point. 153 days later that the entire universe and planet Earth will be destroyed."
"I no longer think about 401(k)s and retirement," he says. "I'm just a lot less stressed, and in a way I'm more carefree."
Brown is married with several young children, and none of them shares his beliefs. It's caused a rift with his wife — but he says that, too, was predicted in the Bible.
But it appears that many became believers in 2009 after turning on Family Radio, a Christian network. Camping's predictions have inspired other groups to rally behind the May 21 date. People have quit their jobs and left their families to get the message out.
"Knowing the date of the end of the world changes all your future plans," says Adrienne Martinez.
She thought she'd go to medical school, until she began tuning in to Family Radio. She and her husband decided they wanted to spend their remaining time with their infant daughter.
"Why are we going to work for more money? "
"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," Adrienne adds.
I've asked a dozen of Camping's followers the same question. Everyone said even entertaining the possibility that May 21 would come and go without event is an offense to God. They all hope they'll be raptured.
"If I'm here on May 22, and I wake up, I'm going to be in hell," says Brown
On the other hand, he will presumably have lots of company.
(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...
I wonder if all the Rapture believers are loading up their credit cards and having a ball.
Or if Camping has stopped his begathons this month. We all know actions speak louders than words.
Camping isn't the _only_ hoaxter setting dates and predicting "the end". They're a dime a dozen in the fundie camp
I forgot to mention, apparently these people missed the rapture. It seems they forgot to account for all the days added and removed from the calendar over the years. Using their calculations but also adding in these days, it should have been April 1.
A lot of people are 'going to be' a lot of things, it doesn't make them dumb or smart.
As I noted above--the RCC is WORSE, all things considered, at fostering confusion and division. Your point is a straw dog of grossly hypocritical proportions and nature.
I haven't read but bits of the Catechism, yet. Plus the portions posted hereon. HOWEVER, that's more than sufficient to be slapped in the face by the horrific degrees, amounts, intensities of confusion and division inherent in the founding primary documents. Add in the next tier of official documents and it only gets worse.
One of the most infuriatingly exasperating aspects of trying to begin to commence to start to attempt an initial preface of an intelligent exchange with RC's hereon is the relentless fact that most are like a hyper-active ADD 2 year old little boy--all over the water front at great erratic speed.
DAFFYNITIONARY is not hyperbole on my part. It's an accurate description of the farcical inconsistent, momentary, specialized confusing-to-the-max RCC word meanings that sometimes seem to change by the hour.
Whether it's eschatology, Mary, Scripture or history--hang around the Vatican School of Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling enough seconds and the word meanings and "facts" will change dramatically--often 180 degrees--at least 90 degrees.
Y'all are far worse than Proddys on those scores. AT least with a Proddy group, one can usually expect the basics to be rather unchangeable in interpretation and practice.
One of the saddest paradoxes with regard to the RCC--is the divisiveness and confusion that it chronically sets up in a huge percentage of RCC families.
Typically, all my growing up and certainly in my early adult years and all my years of counseling--I'd guesstimate 80-95% of the RC's who were estranged from the RCC and from God blamed the outrageous and relentlessly divisive and confusing hypocrisies on the part of their parochial school teachers; the priests; the hierarchy and/or their nominally professing parents.
No wonder only 20-30% of self described RC's are actually anything close to even moderately faithfully practicing RC's.
Certainly Proddys have a similar problem. However, in my experience, the worst group on such scores by far are the RC's.
It is telling to see the PC word "diversity" describing it.
More brazen hypocrisy. You use the word division. Perhaps you fail to notice the kinship between the two words. Just because the globalist MSM REGRESSIVES want to hijack/steal a word doesn't mean I have to agree to the phenomenon. I could just as easily said outrageous variety.
And also to characterize The Church as "a large group of people", which ignores the unique nature and claims attached to it - no matter what the faith tradition is.
Y'all have helped me to see in blazing fiery terms the fact that the RCC is anything BUT a bona fide Christian Church. In a lot of respects, even calling the whole edifice a group is too charitable.
It's an outrageously destructive-to-the Gospel, to families and to individuals and Christianity cult.
It's a horrific, increasingly lock-step globalist political machine.
It's a pile of magicsterical power mongering political potentates lording it over one another and the sheeple at great VERY DESTRUCTIVE cost to personal spirituality and relationship with God.
It's an amazingly successful training organization for homosexuals in the arts of seduction and abuse of young men and boys.
It's an outrageously successful training institution in the arts and seductions of grossly extreme idolatries and blasphemies of the worst sort.
It's an impressively successful extortion racket pressuring the poor to surrender at their most vulnerable times--embarrassingly awful percentages of their meager income on pain of eternal consequences to get their relatives ostensibly prayed out of UnBiblical purgatory.
It's an incredibly successful institution at training RELIGIOUS PROFESSIONALS in the fine arts of political arrogance, prancing, parading and pontificating and prissing about in a relentless overlording dance on the backs, minds and hearts of the sheeple in the pews. Thankfully, there are many exceptions to that amongst many priests. Yet, the truth of those outrages is extremely pervasive throughout the organization. Training in amplifications of IN-GROUP prissy pride is not a fruit of Holy Spirit.
I could go on, on such scores. I'll stop with those examples.
Let's stay on topic here - Harold Camping derives a date of the Rapture from his own personal interpretation of Holy Scripture.
Other than from unholy !!!TRADITIONS!!! of man where does the RCC get so much divisive, destructive, contradictory hypocritical stuff? Oh, right--from hell.
What do you do with your "crazy uncle" who refuses to stay locked up in the attic?
Oh, Love him anyway. Try to keep him safe and involved in life and the family as much as is workable. Neutralize his destructiveness and help him feel cared for.
What a moron.
SOP. There you go again.
Completely wander off topic in order to spew boilerplate. Topic of the thread is Harold Camping - one of yours. He gets it all from the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Are you even capable of posting without bashing the Catholic Church?
The penties and others predictions are all over the map:
“We’ll start with the founder of Australia’s Christian Revival Crusade - Leo Harris who confidently predicted that 1979 will be the date for the return of Christ. This probably happened for those who actually died in 1979 but for the rest of the world – it was a failed prediction. Afterwards some members of his movement predicted that the actual time would be the year 2000 and not 1979. The Worldwide Church of God (founded in 1934 by Herbert W Armstrong) predicted that 1972 would be the year of the Rapture –or the “Great Tribulation” followed by the return of Jesus sometime in 1978. In 1955 Herbert predicted that all Americans “will be totally consumed and carried away captive to other nations as slaves within 20 years.”
The 450 member True Light Church of Christ of North and South Carolina predicted the end of the world to take place in 1970. Another group called “The Children of God: predicted catastrophe in early 1974 by the then rapidly approaching comet named ‘Kohoutec’. Another religious cult called “The Great White Brotherhood, located in Kiev, Russia, took over the city’s St Sofia Cathedral preparing for the end of the world on November 14 1993 resulting in over 600 of their members being arrested for trespassing and citing a riot. Various writers in the early 19th and 20th centuries set precise dates for end time events – which also has come and gone without major incidents. Writers from the Pentecostal movement predicted precise dates as well. A pamphlet created in 1974 by Leon Bates titled ‘Tribulation Map’ included a picture of a hypothetical future newspaper reporting the “rapture” which is a religious event whereby Christians will be secretly snatched off the Earth to meet Jesus in the sky. This was to take place on February 8 1996.” SNIP
http://hubpages.com/hub/Religious-Leaders-and-Their-Doomsday-Predictions
What you can’t explain, DEFLECT REDIRECT!
The false prophets including the “self-proclaimed” here are the worst!
It isn’t so much religion as the POWER that the exercise of religion and prophecy gives an individual. Note that it is the INDIVIDUAL who claims the Holy inspiration.
Brown is married with several young children, and none of them shares his beliefs. It's caused a rift with his wife...
A true Christian who sincerely believes what he claims to would be greatly stressed at the prospect of his beloved being consigned to Hell.
“I haven’t read but bits of the Catechism,...”
I appreciate that candor. Telling, very telling.
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” ~Albert Einstein
A.M.E.N.
A liar and a deceiver.
MORE duplicity, double standard, gross hypocrisy stuff.
You first took the topic aside from Camping to Proddy Sola Scriptura.
My response was to your sidebar change of focus.
I was responding to your points.
You are welcome to deny truth however you see fit, to do.
Bashing the Vatican Cult?
Wellllllllllll, if telling the truth is now called bashing . . .
Some of us Proddys have read probably more than 100 pages of the Catechism y’all have posted hereon.
That’s more than enough to assess a lot of things about it.
btw - sola scriptura in discussing Camping is not a sidebar change of focus. Camping gets all his stuff from the Bible (sola).
I would think you would avoid such threads like the plague.
No, he doesn't. He applies his own theories and engineering-based numerical analysis to selected Scripture to create his own version of God's word.
I’m interested in the truth wherever it leads.
No.
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