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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The nail in the coffin. Not ‘the camel’s nose’.

No, I keep hearing the camel's nose metaphor. IIRC, even you have mentioned it.

There are already regulations in place that have a handful of basic functions; informational regulations and what not. To put it simply, “net neutrality”(the one we’ve been sold on) already exists, has for a long time.

I'm with you there, but I want to keep it existing.

What these marxists are proposing is social regulations.

Correct there too. Thus, what they are proposing is not net neutrality.

Remember, early on the likes of Wu weren't even on the radar for the telcos, they were pushing against the likes of Microsoft and Google who rely on net neutrality for their profits. There were literally statements to the effect of "Why should they make so much money over our lines?" It was business vs. business, and the Microsoft camp's interest happened to align with the interest of freedom for the users. Then the telcos through astroturfing and lobbying made it a left/right issue, and the socialists jumped in on the other side, adding their wish lists. Most of what they talk about has zero logical relation to net neutrality.

10 posted on 05/03/2011 6:05:22 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

-—————No, I keep hearing the camel’s nose metaphor. IIRC, even you have mentioned it.——————

I probably have. But at this point, alice isn’t falling anymore.

She’s at the bottom of the hole looking up. Look at how much I’ve dug up about this, and I really didn’t even have to go very far.

You could’ve done this too, had you had any interest in protecting yourself.

I’ll put it to you this way, (if) when I used the camel metaphor, I was wrong. It’s way worse than I thought.

————I’m with you there, but I want to keep it existing.-—————

Trusting marxists and thinking you’ll get to keep it isn’t wise.

-———Remember, early on the likes of Wu weren’t even on the radar for the telcos—————

Doesn’t matter. He isn’t on their radar now either, that I’ve seen. And even if he is, they aren’t pointing out his marxism. That doesn’t fit into telco jargon.

-————There were literally statements to the effect of “Why should they make so much money over our lines?”——————

That’s my big problem with the telcos. You own the lines, but you don’t own the information in it.


12 posted on 05/03/2011 8:23:58 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of unneutral things.)
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To: antiRepublicrat; Texas Fossil

-————Correct there too. Thus, what they are proposing is not net neutrality.-—————

Which is what I’ve been trying to explain to you all along.

They never had any intention on giving you that version of net neutrality, the one they tried selling us all on. In the background, they even preferred to call it “broadband discrimination” - that should tell you something.

Look at the FCC’s own documentation. They cited Free Press 53 times. Did you even look at the document?

-————“net neutrality” = the historical state of the Internet-——————

“marxism” is the future state of the internet, sold under the banner of “neutrality” - proven with the FCC’s own documents.

Orwell was an optimist.


13 posted on 05/03/2011 8:30:48 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of unneutral things.)
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