[BobP]

This PDF Certificate of Live Birth released is not an image of the original. It may not even be a true copy, it was put together as an abstract from the original document.

Notice that at the bottom it says its a certified copy or an abstract. Mr. Obama is a theoretical American.

An OCR document presented with fancy Photoshop borders is already digitally altered. If you have already altered one thing, you can easily alter something else with the click of a mouse on Photoshop. A document with 1961 writing and a 21st Century safety paper background is obviously not the original.

To determine authenticity you need a real, actual document.

So did the president act stupidly by releasing a PDF abstract document? Maybe not.

If the State of Hawaii put an official seal on it then that ends the discussion of the authenticity as far as any court is concerned. Every state and court must give full faith and credit to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every State. And federal courts are also required to give full faith and credit to the public records of every state.

Hawaii says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue. It's entitled to full faith and credit.

At least maybe now the piss-stream media will stop insisting that the COLB is the birth certificate. And another distraction to keep from reporting on Obama's incompetence is also removed. /sarc

But if Obama became an Indonesian citizen (Barry Soetoro) when he was growing up there, when did he apply to become an American again?

On April 27, 2011 at a news conference Obama denounced the ''silliness,'' the ''sideshows and carnival barkers'' that forced him to release the document after years of speculation.

''We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve.'' the president said before flying off to Chicago. The press conference was held a few minutes after 9:45 a.m. At 10:05 a.m. he was in the air, according to a White House pool report, which noted ''Oprah awaits.''

The only carnival-barker sideshow that's been going on for 3 years has been the Obama Snake Oil Show.

Arrest me, for what? I'm late for Oprah! I've got lies to tell and a nation to destroy.

[kingu]

The whole forgery thing is just.. completely out of hand. Everyone’s trying to recreate the Rathergate moment, and falling into the trap laid for them. Hello? Does anyone doubt that a birth certificate was issued in Hawaii for Obama? Does anyone believe he wasn't born a citizen of the United States?

Even the speculation he might have been born in Kenya - so what? That does not change the fact that his father (which we've now a legal document identifying the father for us) was not a citizen, and thus, Obama’s not a naturally born citizen.

Seriously, releasing a forged birth certificate? Even if everyone with access in the registrar's office was a solid Democrat, all it takes is one person deciding that they want a big payday and sells a true copy to the media (or Trump) to expose the forgery and you won't be able to say the word impeachment fast enough before the house files the charge.

Where's his father's immigration records? Where's the college transcript? And where's the passport documents? Where's the proof that he's a naturally born citizen? There isn't anything that supports it, and today, Obama gave the world the first step in establishing that evidence in a court of law, after sending an military officer to jail rather than release it.

And then he has the gall to stand there and tell us that we're impatient little children for demanding a document that we're required to provide the government when applying for even basic things like a passport.

[TheCipher]

Hawaii says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue.

However, there is no raised seal on the document. They said they certified this copy, but which copy is that referring to ? By presenting a digital image of the copy, there is no way of telling if it was altered after Hawaii certified it. Having said that, there is no reason now why Obama should not sign a waiver with Hawaii to release the longform to whomever requests it. There are no longer any privacy concerns to hide behind and it would settle concerns of if this is the actual certified copy they are presenting.

[Bullish]

It’s still gonna’ end very badly for mr. Obama. BC or no.

[Kevmo]

So did the president act stupidly by releasing a PDF document? Maybe not.
***Of course not. The forgery is good enough to satisfy the Lame Stream Media and anyone who thinks otherwise will be marginalized.

It’s basically the end of the story unless someone can come up with real COMPELLING evidence that it’s a forgery, similar to what happened in the original release of the COLB.

[Yaelle]

Becoming a foreign citizen does not take away a prior American citizenship. Not if that citizenship is conferred upon you, as many countries do automatically for children or spouses of their citizens.