Posted on 04/27/2011 7:25:39 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg
Time to turn to the real issue, 'Does Obama qualify as natural-born'?
The issue with Obamas eligibility not only involves his place of birth but also whether he qualifies as a 'natural-born-citizen'.
After Obama played his 'Trump' card his supporters are trying to divert voters away from the 'natural-born' issue and obfuscate the definition of 'natural-born'.
It is generally believed the Founders considered 'natural-born' to mean born in country to parents who were citizens at the time of the person's birth.
As Holmes said to Watson, "The game is afoot." Attempts have already been made to use 'native-born' interchangeably with 'natural-born' and, as yet, there is no Supreme Court decision nor does the constitution define 'natural-born'.
While Obama has shown his birth certificate it proves that his father was not a citizen but the jury hasn't decided if he qualifies as 'natural-born'.
Yes.
“nor does the constitution define ‘natural-born’”
It doesn’t define “and” either.
Fox has talked about McCain & Arthur insofar as place of birth was concerned but never addressed citizenship of parents as a qualifier in itself. Further, Fox has failed to address (or even to pan or focus the camera on) father’s race which is listed as African, a nonrace. These “anomalies” are newsworthy. What are we all missing?
Obama’s playing coy with his birth certificate wasted millions of Conservative-hours on a false trail, while all the while he is wide open for impeachment for his proven (from his own Web site and video) involvement in an illegal—and that assessment is from Minnesota law enforcement—Internet gambling operation, specifically the “Dinner with Barack” and “Backstage with Barack” lotteries. An AFSCME counsel said there is no way to run an interstate raffle legally and that it constitutes racketeering.
I have been saying this for years only to be blown off with wet-blanket remarks about “Who is going to enforce the law against the Chosen One?” If the court of public opinion had given this a tenth of the publicity it gave to the birther wild goose chase, Obama would have had to clean out his desk long ago.
When people listened to me in 2000 (specifically ONE columnist with national syndication), the anti-Second Amendment Million Mom March turned into a ruined heap of smoking rubble (figuratively speaking). How about listening to me now and helping take down the Disaster in Chief for a genuine reason that is a matter of proven record? All we need is one Republican member of Congress to put impeachment into motion.
Juror number 9 votes he does not qualify as a natural born citizen and should be impeached.
And by spending 2 million dollars, he wasted millions of hours of the time of opponents who were gulled into following a false trail. I have been saying this for years but nobody listened to me. A few thousand of hours from our side invested in the illegal lottery he ran to fund his campaign would have taken him down in 2008 and can take him down now. Involvement in a crime, and MN law enforcement said these promotions were illegal, is cause for impeachment.
I would not put it past Obama to create a deliberate air of ambiguity about his birth certificate to waste our side’s time and make us look like idiots when he finally put up the birth certificate. Ever hear the story of Br’er Rabbit and the Tar Baby? The more you hit it, the more stuck you get. The birthers now have tar all over them.
The play has ended, the audience has exited the theater, and the cleaning crew is sweeping the aisles. The thespian who thinks there is any point in taking an encore now is probably too drunk to understand anyhow.
IF Obama is natural born, so is the son of SADDAM HUSSEIN, born of an American mother!
every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))"
Parent's is PLURAL, not one BOTH. Obama's father was NOT a US citizen, so no, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. Obama's father's allegience was to a foreign country.
Office | Citizenship | Age | Residency (or years citizen) |
Commander in Chief | natural born Citizen | 35 | 14 years resident |
Senator | Citizen | 30 | 9 years a Citizen |
Represantative | Citizen | 25 | 7 years a Citizen |
Keep up the scare!
A good case can be made that the intent of the original framers was that “natural born citizen” described someone born on U.S. soil of U.S. parents. But, since no definitive ruling on this point has ever been made by the U.S. Supreme Court, predicting how the court would rule is a bit problematic.
Did the framers intend that prayer in public schools should be prohibited? Did the framers believe that their document would lead to the indictment on hate crime charges of those professing faithfulness to Christian scripture? Did they believe that the Commerce Clause would allow the Federal Government to regulate any activity that struck their fancy?
I will be so bold as to state that the courts will not touch this issue, and if they do, they will cling to the 14th Amendment to proclaim that Obama is eligible. And dont’ expect the politicians to step up to the plate on this issue, including all of the Republican politicians. They will all circle the wagons on any attack against one of their own, an elitist politician.
Is it your contention that any person of mixed parentage is not a “natural born citizen” of any country? That hardly seems plausible.
First, that two million dollars he had spent was other people’s money. You would think that those people are wondering why he put them through this.
Second, if this is really a legitimate BC, then he had absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money. The fact that he did, gives credence to any who suspect this BC’s validity. He will of course, blame others, but again, he brought it on himself.
Third, his arrogance and obfiscation is also responsible for an honorable man’s court martial and incarceration.
Fourth, now he acts like it was our fault that we actually put him through this, when he clearly brought this on himself.
I have nothing but contempt for this man.
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