all persons born in US may be citizens, but not natural born...
People need to start educating themselves and stop spewing stuff you hear on tv..
The point of this Country is it was established with a Constitution that secures our individual freedom, and protects us from a federal government that denies the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution.
Every military person, Congressman, Senator or any other fed feeding at the public trough, swears to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Why do we not want to defend the Constitution?
There is a difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen is born on US soil by two parents who are US citizens or natural born citizens themselves.
A US citizen can be:
- naturalized or made into a citizen (legal aliens)
- born on US soil
- born of just one US parent/one foreigner on US soil
- born of one US parent/one naturalized parent on foreign soil
The age of the mother at the time of the birth counts as well when the formula is being calculated.
It’s easy to be a citizen, but there is only one way one can be a NBC.
As I explained on another thread:
Although my husband and I are NBC’s, my son is not. He was born in a German hospital. It was explained to us, in detail, when my son was born that he was a US Citizen, but NOT natural born and the only stipulation of his citizen status was that he could never be POTUS.
McCain had a similar issue, BUT he was born in a US hospital on a US base which was classified as US soil in a foreign country. That is the difference between him and my son. HE WAS BORN ON US CLAIMED SOIL. And no, not every baby born in a military hospital in a foreign country is in the same boat. In some places, the US rents the land from the foreign government and it is not US soil. It’s technical and legal and only come up when someone is trying to be POTUS.
For this reason, I think that it’s terribly unjust for military families to sacrifice so much for their country, only to have this over their heads, but I do accept the limitation. It is the Law. Period.
The president must respect the Constitution and the Law.
If Obama was born of a US mother, he is a citizen. Not a problem. But he cannot be a NBC just because his did is not.
Now there is some question about this regarding a woman having a baby with a foreigner on US soil and that’s when the age of the mom comes into question. (I believe that she has to have been an adult US citizen for 4 years before the birth for it to count, but don’t quote me on that. I’m sure there are other FReepers who can deal with that point better than I.) But a SCOTUS decision makes that issue moot. It ruled that a NBC must have both mom and dad as US citizens and be born on US soil years ago.
The whole birth certificate issue is weird to me for this very reason. The paper itself was never the real issue. We *know* he’s not a NBC because of his dad.
So what’s the real reason he’s worked so hard not to debunk this crap? Is it because he wasn’t born here (as many birthers suspect) and that would completely invalidate his position without question? Is it because the BC reveals something that would destroy his reputation or cause embarrassment? What the heck is going on with this guy??