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Las Vegas Police beat unarmed man for video taping
Live Leak.com ^ | Apr-23-2011 | DCM Fox

Posted on 04/23/2011 3:02:32 PM PDT by DariusBane

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To: Red6
Other than speculation, conjecture and hyperbole, what do you have in terms of facts outside of a video?

LOL, what do you? You watched the tape, right? You know, the one with the meek officer hurting his hand on the violent video perp? "Speculation, conjecture and hyperbole," plus an implication of presumed innocence for the cop who is now under investigation from the tape of the released videographer (hint, hint), comprise the entirety of your post, which you've kept completely context-free!

How annoying for you that civilians would watch a tape and have an opinion on their own, instead of waiting to bow to the Internal Affairs report!

81 posted on 04/23/2011 5:30:46 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker

Not to mention the DA about messed himself when he watched the tape and begged the police for clarification about the assault on an officer charge. To which the police never responded.

He (the DA) knew full and well after he saw the tape what had happened and what was coming...


82 posted on 04/23/2011 5:34:07 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: DariusBane; JimRed

I agree with Jim...I wouldn’t have lied to the LE. That gives them reason to mess with you. If he’d been in the street, he’d been perfectly within his rights.


83 posted on 04/23/2011 5:38:48 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (No animal commerce on the open forums.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen; DariusBane; JimRed

Maybe he was nervous about the cops and he initially lied to them because he had reason to fear they might assault him or violate his rights...

... oh wait a sec...


84 posted on 04/23/2011 5:40:38 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

If you only knew how many times I have listened to cops brag about the beat downs they handed out.


85 posted on 04/23/2011 5:48:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I see how lying prevented his azz whoopin...

Oh wait..

You know me. I ain’t no bootlicker. Me, personally, I don’t lie to LE’s. And it pizzez them off. If I don’t want to tell them something, I don’t lie, I just don’t tell them.


86 posted on 04/23/2011 5:54:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (No animal commerce on the open forums.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I just don’t tell them.

And even that will get you assaulted by todays cops... as someone already say a good number of cops are just itching to use force.

http://twitter.com/#!/InjusticeNews

87 posted on 04/23/2011 5:59:15 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

I think in retrospect he would agree with you. If you listen to the video, (which I hope you have) you will here that he believed that he told the cop that he lived there. He was just nervous... Wonder why?


88 posted on 04/23/2011 6:22:47 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

You have NO obligation to tell cops the truth. They are not your priest. They have one job, and only one job. To put you in jail. Your job is to stay out of jail.


89 posted on 04/23/2011 6:24:15 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

I learned a long time ago that no matter how screwed up a situation, any situation happens to be you can always make it worse by involving the cops.

Always.


90 posted on 04/23/2011 6:34:05 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

Amen!


91 posted on 04/23/2011 6:36:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: DariusBane

Am I a giggly high school girl out past curfew and the LE my daddy? I’m a grown damn man and I don’t lie to anybody about anything. Mainly because I could give a damn what anyone thinks about the truth. It is what it is.

Doesn’t mean I have to tell them the truth. I don’t have to tell them anything. I tell them as little as I have to or nothing at all. That’s where most people mess up talking to police...they say too much. Telling a lie is saying too much. They know when you’re lying and by doing so, you are giving them an opening they wouldn’t otherwise have.

In all honesty, I’ve probably had more dealings with LE and defense attorneys than the average FReeper...in my younger days.


92 posted on 04/23/2011 6:43:35 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (No animal commerce on the open forums.)
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To: KarlInOhio

ditto


93 posted on 04/23/2011 6:45:36 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Vigilantcitizen
After you work in an official position long enough you learn when the "citizen" is telling a lie, and that's called EVASIVENESS.

Once the puke turns evasive you've got him.

Doesn't mean you have to beat him up ~ although I did sometimes go through the rigamarole to get an inspector involved in some way.

That's why it's a good reason to not lie to cops ~ THEY KNOW. Even if you're just trying to brush him off he's out there doing a job. That may even be pushing up their blood pressure and kicking in some adrenalin.

Leave the lies for when you're pushing back beers with Officer Neckvein ~ he may well be a nice guy ~ but when he's on the job he'd choke an Emergency Medical Technician (EMT), or just walk in and shoot a guy in a Wal-Mart.

94 posted on 04/23/2011 7:06:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Cool!


95 posted on 04/23/2011 7:09:43 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I agree with Jim...I wouldn't have lied to the LE. That gives them reason to mess with you.

He subsequently told Officer Colling twice that he did live there. Do you think the officer acted appropriately in this situation?

If he'd been in the street, he'd been perfectly within his rights.

Are you saying that he was NOT within his rights in this situation?

He was within his rights whether he was in the street, on his own property, or on someone else's property. Do you say otherwise?

96 posted on 04/23/2011 7:14:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: JimRed
Why did he lie about living there?

I don't know.

Not that it makes the cop right or anything, but...

Ahh, now that's an interesting point. Do you think the cop was indeed right?

What is your opinion of Officer Colling's behavior in this episode?

97 posted on 04/23/2011 7:24:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: DariusBane
Personally, I don't give a damn when cops get shot, stabbed, run over, etc. In some cases, I'd cheer. (This is one.)

I'd be hard pressed to p!ss on one if he was on fire. If I saw the one in the story being shanked, I'd mind my own business and go get a pizza.

The Department of Just Us.
F'Em, each and every one.

When they return to knocking on doors and explaining the warrants they are delivering, and politely asking for assistance, and stopping the gestapo crap, I'll change my mind. Then they would be deserving of respect.

I don't blame them for the speeding tickets. That's not their fault. Local politicians force that crap on them. They want to stand out in the rain and do it as much as I want the ticket.

Until "conservatives" wise up, and stop this crap we will never be free. Nothing will change by electing Palin if you allow this to continue. You will literally wake up two elections later and wonder WHY society is worse, and WHY we are less free, and WHY nothing changed. You don't get it.

They are enemies of freedom. And cops or cop humpers, spare me the "Who will protect you" business.

What you mean is who will show up 20 minutes after the crime is over, act tough and stupid, not listen to the victims or witnesses and fill out papers.

I protect me.

Supreme Court has already ruled cops have no obligation no legal duty to protect anyone. (So you can scratch "Protect" off the door there. And since you don't SERVE anyone but yourselves, mark that one off too. Or stencil "Donuts" on there after "Serve".)

Black people have a proper viewpoint of the police.

Ignorant conservatives think they are your friends.

You wear chains formed in your own minds. Need to wise up and realize when the left is right. They may be stopped clocks, but still.

98 posted on 04/23/2011 7:25:41 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: KarlInOhio
This is a case where the officers should be sued and the demand is not for money but for their badges and a permanent order that they never serve in any law enforcement position, even mall patrol, again.

Prison time or no deal.

A cop (or judge, or politican) that breaks the law and HARMS a citizen should face THREE TIMES the punishment a citizen faces with no possibility of parole.

99 posted on 04/23/2011 7:27:28 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: DariusBane

Las Vegas. I’m surprised they didn’t shoot him.


100 posted on 04/23/2011 7:30:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You say your'e conservative, but you support liberals. Should I believe your words or your actions?)
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