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To: PROCON

Speaking of toilets, the low flow toilets we have nowadays just don’t work as well as the old style ones.

I understand that they use less water per flush, however, depending on what you are flushing, you can end up flushing or using a plunger two or three times to get the job done.

Just my observation, on the real world functioning of something which was done, with the best of intentions of saving water and helping the environment and all that.


5 posted on 04/17/2011 1:57:37 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Let me say this about that ~ Kohler has a design that works. The others do not have designs that work effectively. They also have designs that are entirely too shallow and leave the "well hung" hanging in cold water.

No one in Congress appears to UNDERSTAND ~ maybe Michelle, but the others? NONE!!~

12 posted on 04/17/2011 2:04:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In light of the multiple flushes often required for a single “load” I’m guessing the net amount of water ‘saved’ is trivial.

In contrast, the amount of time squandered dealing with unnecessarily clogged toilets is absurd. There’s 115 million U.S. households. Assume there’s even ONE unnecessary clog a year in each household due to the low flush toilets law. Assume it takes 5 minutes to clear each clog on average. That’s roughly 10 million lost hours. Valuing time at $16 an hour—as is done for estimates of the cost of tax compliance (http://www.laffercenter.com/2011/04/the-economic-burden-caused-by-tax-code-complexity/)—that loss equals $160 million. Now multiply by the ACTUAL number of annual avoidable clogs per household. In my household, it’s at least once every other month, so the total time loss is probably $1 billion a year. What exactly do we gain for that wasted time?


15 posted on 04/17/2011 2:16:01 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Speaking of toilets, the low flow toilets we have nowadays just don’t work as well as the old style ones.”

They also cause problems in city sewer lines.

Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2681222/posts

Low Flow Toilets Equals No-Flow Sewers In San Francisco
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2682312/posts


26 posted on 04/17/2011 3:14:10 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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